* Different "Re:" Styles @ 1996-08-29 23:18 Jens Lautenbacher 1996-08-29 23:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Jens Lautenbacher @ 1996-08-29 23:18 UTC (permalink / raw) I have often discussion with someone who has a mailer that marks Replies with "Aw:" instead of "Re:". The net result is that gnus is no longer able to thread the posting-answer-backanswer-.... chain and message produces "Re: Aw: blabla" for my answers on his first answer. Is there any possibility to tune gnus in a way that it is able to process "Aw:" at the beginning og a subject line the same way ot does for "Re:" ????? Yours, Jens ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Different "Re:" Styles 1996-08-29 23:18 Different "Re:" Styles Jens Lautenbacher @ 1996-08-29 23:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1996-08-30 7:15 ` Jost Krieger 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-08-29 23:57 UTC (permalink / raw) Jens Lautenbacher <jens@lemming0.lem.uni-karlsruhe.de> writes: > I have often discussion with someone who has a mailer that marks > Replies with "Aw:" instead of "Re:". The net result is that gnus is no > longer able to thread the posting-answer-backanswer-.... chain and > message produces "Re: Aw: blabla" for my answers on his first answer. > > Is there any possibility to tune gnus in a way that it is able to > process "Aw:" at the beginning og a subject line the same way ot does > for "Re:" ????? No, the Re: is hardcoded all over the place. "Aw:" is broken. Make somebody fix that brainded mailer. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Different "Re:" Styles 1996-08-29 23:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-08-30 7:15 ` Jost Krieger 1996-08-30 9:43 ` Per Abrahamsen 1996-08-30 19:02 ` Ken Raeburn 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Jost Krieger @ 1996-08-30 7:15 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes: Lars> Jens Lautenbacher <jens@lemming0.lem.uni-karlsruhe.de> writes: >> I have often discussion with someone who has a mailer that marks >> Replies with "Aw:" instead of "Re:". The net result is that gnus >> is no longer able to thread the >> posting-answer-backanswer-.... chain and message produces "Re: Aw: >> blabla" for my answers on his first answer. >> >> Is there any possibility to tune gnus in a way that it is able to >> process "Aw:" at the beginning og a subject line the same way ot >> does for "Re:" ????? Lars> No, the Re: is hardcoded all over the place. "Aw:" is broken. Lars> Make somebody fix that brainded mailer. Yes, yes, yes and no. It is hardcoded, it is braindead, it should be fixed, but "somebody" is Microsoft. "Aw:" is in reality "AW:", stands probably for "Antwort", German for "Reply", and is contained in (the German version of) Microsoft Exchange. Fat chance of getting that fixed. By the way, they also put "WL:", where you would expect "Fwd:" ... Jost -- Jost Krieger, Postmaster, Rechenzentrum der Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum Jost.Krieger@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Different "Re:" Styles 1996-08-30 7:15 ` Jost Krieger @ 1996-08-30 9:43 ` Per Abrahamsen 1996-08-30 12:36 ` Jost Krieger 1996-08-31 6:49 ` Jason L Tibbitts III 1996-08-30 19:02 ` Ken Raeburn 1 sibling, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Per Abrahamsen @ 1996-08-30 9:43 UTC (permalink / raw) The Seal of Good Netkeeping seems to allow rewrites that compensate for broken software like Microsoft Exchange: The Good Net-Keeping Seal of Approval says: > Exception: The software MAY try to compensate for other people's > broken software by stripping off such non-standard prefixes as > "Re(2): ", "Re:" (no space), "RE: ", "re: ", or "Re: Re: " and > replacing them with "Re: ". ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Different "Re:" Styles 1996-08-30 9:43 ` Per Abrahamsen @ 1996-08-30 12:36 ` Jost Krieger 1996-08-30 19:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1996-08-31 6:49 ` Jason L Tibbitts III 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Jost Krieger @ 1996-08-30 12:36 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding For the case of Mail, I cannot find *any* codification of "Re: ", however. Jost ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Different "Re:" Styles 1996-08-30 12:36 ` Jost Krieger @ 1996-08-30 19:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-08-30 19:39 UTC (permalink / raw) Jost Krieger <Jost.Krieger@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> writes: > For the case of Mail, I cannot find *any* codification of "Re: ", > however. No, RFC822 does not specify that the Subject in replies should have "Re: " prepended. RFC822 was written in a long-gone age, where things that were self-evident simply was not discussed. RFC822 wasn't written to be read by morons -- ``Hey, RFC822 doesn't explicitly prohibit us from adding the string "wE aRe ElItE!!!!!1!!" to the end of all lines passing through our server, so let's do that!!!!1!'' -- so MicroSoft Exchange can add whatever it wants to any parts of all mail messages it generates. Don't expect me to bother with dealing with the junk, though. -- "Yes. The journey through the human heart would have to wait until some other time." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Different "Re:" Styles 1996-08-30 9:43 ` Per Abrahamsen 1996-08-30 12:36 ` Jost Krieger @ 1996-08-31 6:49 ` Jason L Tibbitts III 1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Jason L Tibbitts III @ 1996-08-31 6:49 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "PA" == Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes: PA> The Seal of Good Netkeeping seems to allow rewrites that compensate for PA> broken software like Microsoft Exchange: Didn't we go through this once already? I recall a big argument with no resolution. - J< ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Different "Re:" Styles 1996-08-30 7:15 ` Jost Krieger 1996-08-30 9:43 ` Per Abrahamsen @ 1996-08-30 19:02 ` Ken Raeburn 1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Ken Raeburn @ 1996-08-30 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding > Yes, yes, yes and no. It is hardcoded, it is braindead, it should be fixed, > but "somebody" is Microsoft. "Aw:" is in reality "AW:", stands probably for "Antwort", > German for "Reply", and is contained in (the German version of) Microsoft Exchange. > Fat chance of getting that fixed. Well, maybe *they* won't fix it, but it's probably a simple matter of applying emacs to the binary... :-) It's most likely in there as a simple constant string. (And if you do find the right offset, there's probably some simple set of commands you can give to some DOS/Windoze editor or debugger to make the same fix, simple enough that you can publicize it for any user who doesn't even know what "binary" means.) "Fixing" wl->fwd may be more troublesome, since the strings are of different length. (Of course, I don't have the program, I try to avoid Windows when possible, and I don't know for sure how they code the "Re:"/"Aw:" addition. I could be wrong. It could be very hard to change.) It should at least be reported as a bug by as many people as possible, and make sure you let them know why it's wrong. If it isn't reported, then there's an even smaller chance they'll fix it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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