From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/33181 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: emacs21-branch (Re: ognus) Date: 04 Nov 2000 16:04:38 +0100 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <2nwvetu80i.fsf@tiger.jia.vnet> <20001028192205.7987BDBA78@tux.gnu.franken.de> <20001029184843.3207BDBAC8@tux.gnu.franken.de> <200010302253.WAA08203@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <200011021725.RAA12721@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <200011031914.TAA14435@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035169334 23737 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:02:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59890D049C for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 14:54:42 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAC24632; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:54:13 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 04 Nov 2000 08:49:10 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27314 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 08:48:58 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (sheridan.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.227]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705EDD049A for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 09:49:23 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from ssv2.dina.kvl.dk (ssv2.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.226]) by sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA31252; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 15:49:21 +0100 Original-Received: from abraham by ssv2.dina.kvl.dk with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13s4s2-0004K6-00; Sat, 04 Nov 2000 16:04:38 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33181 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33181 Denys Duchier writes: > But really, all I am suggesting is that the on-going development be > made transparent rather than opaque. No effort is involved. Actually, quite a lot of effort is required to make the development process "feel" open/transparent to outsiders. At least, that is the impression I get from the people who have changed existing software projects (Mozilla, GCC, GDB) to make them appear more open. They also claim the effort is well spend, in terms of recruiting developers.