From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/28342 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: de .* and gnus-group-posting-charset-alist Date: 20 Dec 1999 12:24:51 +0100 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87ogbwjtpw.fsf@deneb.cygnus.argh.org> <87so15xmug.fsf@deneb.cygnus.argh.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035165208 29387 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:53:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:53:28 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262E1D051E for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:26:23 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAB11747; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:25:58 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:25:30 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA20642 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:25:17 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (sheridan.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.227]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266CCD051E for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:24:55 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from zuse.dina.kvl.dk (zuse.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.245]) by sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with ESMTP id MAA24146 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:25:08 +0100 Original-Received: (from abraham@localhost) by zuse.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id MAA17615; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:24:51 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: zuse.dina.kvl.dk: abraham set sender to abraham@dina.kvl.dk using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ In-Reply-To: Karl EICHWALDER's message of "19 Dec 1999 19:23:12 +0100" Original-Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.4 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28342 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28342 Karl EICHWALDER writes: > Per Abrahamsen writes: > > | Which means Gnus will be broken for some hierarchies where it > | currently works. > > Some people might think so. But it's that difficult to solve the > problem: The current (5.8.2) solution, to make the behaviour depend on hierarchy, is close to perfect. Rare occurences such as cross-hierachy crossposting should not affect this decision. Maybe the default is wrong for de.*, but that should not mean that the new German preferences should be forced into all other hierarchies. > (PS. I do read mailinglists where people are used to post in non > standard encodings; this works for them quite well. Because these > people aren't able to follow good internet standards, I > (resp. Gnus) was forced to work around the problem. As it stands, > Gnus is broken for some mailinglist -- to follow your > argumentation.) Of course, mailing list conventions are even more subject to the owners wishes than local hierarchies. The owner usually prefer a solution that works best for the users over a solution that follows the words of some arbitrary standard. Which is how it should be.