From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/14633 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Showing dormants when entering mail group? Date: 16 Mar 1998 17:00:35 +0100 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035153794 17348 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:43:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26954 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:08:09 -0800 Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23833 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:02:41 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAN20148; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:37:13 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:01:29 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27135 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:01:21 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 27627 invoked by uid 504); 16 Mar 1998 16:00:56 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 27624 invoked from network); 16 Mar 1998 16:00:56 -0000 Original-Received: from elc1.dina.kvl.dk (130.225.40.228) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 1998 16:00:53 -0000 Original-Received: from zuse.dina.kvl.dk (zuse.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.245]) by elc1.dina.kvl.dk (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id RAA03997; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:00:36 +0100 Original-Received: (abraham@localhost) by zuse.dina.kvl.dk (8.6.12/8.6.4) id RAA12971; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:00:35 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ Original-Lines: 54 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.2/Emacs 20.2 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:14633 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:14633 SL Baur writes: > Per Abrahamsen writes: > > > SL Baur writes: > >> O.K. I did some digging and unfortunately the behavior of suppressing > >> childless dormants appears to be hardcoded. Rats. > > > It happens to be the whole idea behind the dormant mark. > > Why? Why what? > I tried using the dormant mark as a means of quickly seeing > which messages of mine had been responded to in a (Mail) group. And what made you use dormant instead of ticks? > What > immediately turned me off about it is that once a message disappears > the entire group has to be rescanned to make these messages reappear. / D > I believe my objection to this would be resolved if there was a means > of having dormants older than a certain age (from a group parameter) > appear by default. Just use the tick mark. > How are dormants supposed to be used? I have a KILL file like this: (or (string-match "nn\\(draft:\\|ml:\\|tp\\+\\|dir:\\)" gnus-newsgroup-name) (gnus-kill "From" "BJÆF\\|Per Abrahamsen" '(gnus-summary-mark-as-dormant 1))) This way I don't have to see my own boring articles, except when someone responds. > > > I think it is better to start working on support for real labels, or > > to start using subgroups as labels, instead of changing a feature like > > dormant articles into something for which it wasn't designed. > > What are subgroups? nnml:work.misc nnml:work.todo nnml:work.done nnml:work.reference nnvirtual:my-mail