From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/13456 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Selective quoting (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) Date: 05 Jan 1998 22:29:27 +0100 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <199712280107.UAA02498@mail.interpath.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035152819 9367 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:26:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, John Moreno , Karl-Johan Noren Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19968 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:09:51 -0800 Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07181 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:10:13 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAN00729; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:07:22 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 05 Jan 1998 15:30:03 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA21250 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:29:55 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 3645 invoked by uid 504); 5 Jan 1998 21:29:44 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 3642 invoked from network); 5 Jan 1998 21:29:43 -0000 Original-Received: from elc1.dina.kvl.dk (130.225.40.228) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 1998 21:29:41 -0000 Original-Received: from zuse.dina.kvl.dk (zuse.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.245]) by elc1.dina.kvl.dk (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id WAA05575; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:20:34 +0100 Original-Received: (abraham@localhost) by zuse.dina.kvl.dk (8.6.12/8.6.4) id WAA22409; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:29:27 +0100 Original-To: Russ Allbery X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ In-Reply-To: Russ Allbery's message of 05 Jan 1998 12:31:09 -0800 Original-Lines: 28 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:13456 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:13456 Russ Allbery writes: > Per Abrahamsen writes: > > > This is something Gravity does, and in general a good idea. It migth > > make less sense for Gnus. However, I think it would be nice if quoting > > would be restricted to the currently region in the messsage being > > quoted, iff `transient-message-mode' is on, and the region is active. > > I still don't think this idea makes any sense. But YMMV. Think of the typical new user with a windows based newsreader. Would you rather have that 1) He had to select which parts of the article to quote, or 2) he had to select which parts of the article not to quote? I'd prefer #1, since I believe that having to make an explicit decision to quote some text would encourage him to only quote the relevant parts of the message. Now Gnus is different because it is part of Emacs, and the commands must make sense within that frameworks, and Gnus users are in average more experienced than, say, users of MS Internet News. Thus, you don't see as many beginner-errors with Gnus, and adding extra code to prevent them makes less sense in that context.