From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/8258 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Feedback on new Customization Date: 09 Oct 1996 15:45:04 +0200 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: abraham@dina.kvl.dk Message-ID: References: <24453.844790128@splat.niehs.nih.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035148449 11056 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:14:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 6165 invoked from smtpd); 9 Oct 1996 14:16:35 -0000 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@129.240.64.2) by deanna.miranova.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 1996 14:16:34 -0000 Original-Received: from elc1.dina.kvl.dk (elc1.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.228]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:45:09 +0200 Original-Received: from kolmogorov.dina.kvl.dk (kolmogorov.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.209]) by elc1.dina.kvl.dk (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA10278; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:39:31 +0100 Original-Received: (abraham@localhost) by kolmogorov.dina.kvl.dk (8.6.12/8.6.4) id PAA09552; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:45:04 +0200 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ In-Reply-To: Wesley.Hardaker@sphys.unil.ch's message of 09 Oct 1996 10:47:32 +0100 Original-Lines: 54 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.49/Emacs 19.34 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:8258 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:8258 >>>>> "WH" == Wesley Hardaker writes: WH> You know, I hate things that modify my .emacs... I hate using the WH> 'save options' menu item for that reason. Oh well, someday I had to WH> give in (I did so for 'customize'...). RMS wanted it that way. You can customize it though, by setting the `custom-file' option. You will then have to load the new custom file from `.emacs' explicitly. WH> However, it would be nice to have some more 'topics', I guess WH> they're called, to seperate the different sections a bit more. They are called customization groups. WH> I don't know how difficult this is to do as I haven't glanced at WH> the code at all. I think you will find the code for adding customization support pretty intuitive. Maybe you could try to add customization support to smiley.el? I don't touch the files that don't have Lars as the primary author, and would really appreciate if someone else would try to use the custom API before it gets added to Emacs. WH> IE, under gnus-summary you could have it divided a bit more into WH> 'threads', 'hooks', 'display', 'scoring', etc... Yes. I have just basically created one group per lisp file, since that was the easiest to do. But I hope someone will organize it a bit further. WH> A decent plan would be to follow the info file(s) hierarchy, which WH> would make using custom really cool if you were reading the manual WH> at the same time! Yes it is. I also want to be able to attach info-links and perhaps url-links to each option or group, but haven't figured out how to do that without cluttering up the display even more. I already dislike that the help button and the state button look too similar, and too much like checkboxes. How and where would a info button fit? And additionally, you might want to have multiple info and url buttons. At some point, you should be able to edit the options directly in the online manual. WH> Anyway, its probably too late to start adding more hierarchy huh? No, it is quite easy to change. You can also have the same options appear in multiple groups, so there could be a `gnus-visual' group containing all the faces.