From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35080 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: `user-mail-address' for message-ids Date: 28 Feb 2001 12:15:42 +0100 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <20010223133030.B14991@mastaler.com> <87bsrnmrxw.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035170880 1069 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:28:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07AFFD049D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:17:18 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAB29407; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 05:16:38 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 28 Feb 2001 05:15:37 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA20875 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 05:15:19 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (sheridan.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.227]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158DBD049D for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 06:15:48 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from ssv2.dina.kvl.dk (ssv2.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.226]) by sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA29766; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:15:43 +0100 Original-Received: from abraham by ssv2.dina.kvl.dk with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14Y4a6-0003E8-00; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:15:42 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ In-Reply-To: <87bsrnmrxw.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> (Florian Weimer's message of "28 Feb 2001 04:01:31 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/20.7 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Original-Lines: 20 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35080 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35080 Florian Weimer writes: > If the local-part includes a reasonable amount of entropy, the > probability of a Message-ID collision is negligible (compared to, say, > the whole universe vanishing in a quantum fluctuation). This is the strategy Forte Agent uses. However, given that there is no standard algorithm for generating the LHS, and thus no guarantee that the algorithm contains a sufficient amount of entropy, it makes sense to insist on the rules that exists for the thr RHS, which at least localizes the problem. > OTOH, it is extremly bad style to use someone else's FQDN in your > message IDs. Which is why Forte has registeret a domain specifically for Agent message-id's. It violates the letter of the standard, but at least it provides a guarentee against collisions with message-id's generated by other agents.