* Re: GNKSA and Gnus [not found] <199712280107.UAA02498@mail.interpath.net> @ 1998-01-05 19:54 ` Per Abrahamsen 1998-01-05 20:31 ` Russ Allbery 1998-01-12 22:15 ` GNKSA and Gnus Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Per Abrahamsen @ 1998-01-05 19:54 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: John Moreno, Karl-Johan Noren [ Lars: I'd be willing to work on 10d and 10e if you are interested. ] The GNKSA requirements seem reasonable to me. Some of the SHOULD doesn't really apply to Gnus because of special concerns, which I suspect is why they are SHOULD and not MUST. > 7c Does not restrict references sensibly I often have to manually edit the references line when posting followups in gnu.misc.discuss in order to make INN accept it. I guess it happens in gnu.misc.discuss because 1) The threads there are very deep. 2) There are a high fraction of Gnus users, thus none of the posters software will restrict the header. This is with nntp-server-type's value is "200 ssv2.dina.kvl.dk InterNetNews NNRP server INN 1.5.1 17-Dec-1996 ready (posting ok).\n" I found this in the config file. ## Maximum size of a single header. #### =()<MAXHEADERSIZE @<MAXHEADERSIZE>@>()= MAXHEADERSIZE 1024 I would feel more safe having Gnus truncate the header, than doing it myself. > Additionally, the software violates the `soft' GNKSA requirements > (SHOULDs) in the following way: > 10d Does not omit (proper) signatures from quoted text I think Gnus should do that. The default Gnus citation handler is too barebone, probably in reaction too the alternative citation handler (SuperCite) which is too advanced. > 10e Does not let the user indicate which part to followup to This is something Gravity does, and in general a good idea. It migth make less sense for Gnus. However, I think it would be nice if quoting would be restricted to the currently region in the messsage being quoted, iff `transient-message-mode' is on, and the region is active. > 10g Attribution line lacks Message-ID of original article This is the only point I disagree with. The message-id is in the references line, which should be enough. I don't think therte is anything resembling a consensus on whether it should be included in the attribution line as well. > 16b Does not refuse posting an empty article > 16d Does not refuse to post quoted text only > 16f Does not try to prevent posting multiple copies entirely Actually, I believe I have gotten warnings for all three of these. > The software sports the following nice net-keeping features unmentioned > by the GNKSA: Command to fetch FAQ for the group. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: GNKSA and Gnus 1998-01-05 19:54 ` GNKSA and Gnus Per Abrahamsen @ 1998-01-05 20:31 ` Russ Allbery 1998-01-05 21:29 ` Selective quoting (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) Per Abrahamsen 1998-01-12 22:15 ` GNKSA and Gnus Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Russ Allbery @ 1998-01-05 20:31 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: John Moreno, Karl-Johan Noren Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes: > I often have to manually edit the references line when posting followups > in gnu.misc.discuss in order to make INN accept it. I guess it happens > in gnu.misc.discuss because > 1) The threads there are very deep. > 2) There are a high fraction of Gnus users, thus none of the posters > software will restrict the header. I stand corrected. > ## Maximum size of a single header. > #### =()<MAXHEADERSIZE @<MAXHEADERSIZE>@>()= > MAXHEADERSIZE 1024 I believe this only affects headers which are not continued. If one uses continuation lines, headers can be much larger. (Or that at least is my understanding.) Keep in mind that the version of Gnus that I'm using still wraps References using continuation lines; I think Lars took that out at some point? It sounds like either the header wrapping code needs to be put back in or Gnus needs to shorten the Reference headers it generates, in the short term. In the long term, I expect the new news RFC to require References headers not be truncated. > This is something Gravity does, and in general a good idea. It migth > make less sense for Gnus. However, I think it would be nice if quoting > would be restricted to the currently region in the messsage being > quoted, iff `transient-message-mode' is on, and the region is active. I still don't think this idea makes any sense. But YMMV. -- Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu) <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Selective quoting (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) 1998-01-05 20:31 ` Russ Allbery @ 1998-01-05 21:29 ` Per Abrahamsen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Per Abrahamsen @ 1998-01-05 21:29 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding, John Moreno, Karl-Johan Noren Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes: > Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes: > > > This is something Gravity does, and in general a good idea. It migth > > make less sense for Gnus. However, I think it would be nice if quoting > > would be restricted to the currently region in the messsage being > > quoted, iff `transient-message-mode' is on, and the region is active. > > I still don't think this idea makes any sense. But YMMV. Think of the typical new user with a windows based newsreader. Would you rather have that 1) He had to select which parts of the article to quote, or 2) he had to select which parts of the article not to quote? I'd prefer #1, since I believe that having to make an explicit decision to quote some text would encourage him to only quote the relevant parts of the message. Now Gnus is different because it is part of Emacs, and the commands must make sense within that frameworks, and Gnus users are in average more experienced than, say, users of MS Internet News. Thus, you don't see as many beginner-errors with Gnus, and adding extra code to prevent them makes less sense in that context. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: GNKSA and Gnus 1998-01-05 19:54 ` GNKSA and Gnus Per Abrahamsen 1998-01-05 20:31 ` Russ Allbery @ 1998-01-12 22:15 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1998-01-12 22:45 ` Russ Allbery ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-01-12 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw) Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes: > [ Lars: I'd be willing to work on 10d and 10e if you are interested. ] Sure. > nntp-server-type's value is > "200 ssv2.dina.kvl.dk InterNetNews NNRP server INN 1.5.1 17-Dec-1996 ready (posting ok).\n" > > I found this in the config file. > > ## Maximum size of a single header. > #### =()<MAXHEADERSIZE @<MAXHEADERSIZE>@>()= > MAXHEADERSIZE 1024 Hm. Is this the default? If so, I think Gnus should just go back to folding the header. > > 10d Does not omit (proper) signatures from quoted text > > I think Gnus should do that. The default Gnus citation handler is too > barebone, probably in reaction too the alternative citation handler > (SuperCite) which is too advanced. Providing an alternative to `message-cite-original' that removes the signature might be nice. > > 10e Does not let the user indicate which part to followup to > > This is something Gravity does, and in general a good idea. It migth > make less sense for Gnus. However, I think it would be nice if > quoting would be restricted to the currently region in the messsage > being quoted, iff `transient-message-mode' is on, and the region is > active. Hm. Perhaps, but I can't really see this being used much. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: GNKSA and Gnus 1998-01-12 22:15 ` GNKSA and Gnus Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-01-12 22:45 ` Russ Allbery 1998-02-02 18:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1998-01-12 22:48 ` Hrvoje Niksic 1998-01-13 15:58 ` PATCH: Don't quote signature (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) Per Abrahamsen 2 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Russ Allbery @ 1998-01-12 22:45 UTC (permalink / raw) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes: > Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes: >> I found this in the config file. >> ## Maximum size of a single header. >> #### =()<MAXHEADERSIZE @<MAXHEADERSIZE>@>()= >> MAXHEADERSIZE 1024 > Hm. Is this the default? If so, I think Gnus should just go back to > folding the header. Yup, that's the default. And yes, that would be my preference as well. -- Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu) <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: GNKSA and Gnus 1998-01-12 22:45 ` Russ Allbery @ 1998-02-02 18:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-02-02 18:25 UTC (permalink / raw) Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes: > > Hm. Is this the default? If so, I think Gnus should just go back to > > folding the header. > > Yup, that's the default. And yes, that would be my preference as well. I've now switched back again to folding. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: GNKSA and Gnus 1998-01-12 22:15 ` GNKSA and Gnus Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1998-01-12 22:45 ` Russ Allbery @ 1998-01-12 22:48 ` Hrvoje Niksic 1998-01-13 15:58 ` PATCH: Don't quote signature (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) Per Abrahamsen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Hrvoje Niksic @ 1998-01-12 22:48 UTC (permalink / raw) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes: > Hm. Is this the default? If so, I think Gnus should just go back to > folding the header. Please do. Or, see my proposal in "References again" thread. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- `VI' - An editor used by those heretics that don't subscribe to the Emacs religion. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* PATCH: Don't quote signature (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) 1998-01-12 22:15 ` GNKSA and Gnus Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1998-01-12 22:45 ` Russ Allbery 1998-01-12 22:48 ` Hrvoje Niksic @ 1998-01-13 15:58 ` Per Abrahamsen 1998-01-14 23:57 ` Kim-Minh Kaplan 1998-02-08 15:18 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Per Abrahamsen @ 1998-01-13 15:58 UTC (permalink / raw) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes: > Providing an alternative to `message-cite-original' that removes the > signature might be nice. Here is a patch to `message-cite-original' which simply doesn't quote the signature. I think that in the rare cases where the user *want* to quote the signature, he can just cut and paste it manually. 1998-01-13 Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> * gnus/message.el (message-cite-original): Don't quote signature. cd /pack/emacs-20/share/emacs/20.2/lisp/gnus/ diff -c message.el~ message.el *** message.el~ Fri Sep 5 08:12:49 1997 --- message.el Tue Jan 13 16:56:11 1998 *************** *** 1598,1608 **** --- 1598,1612 ---- (defun message-cite-original () "Cite function in the standard Message manner." (let ((start (point)) + (end (mark t)) (functions (when message-indent-citation-function (if (listp message-indent-citation-function) message-indent-citation-function (list message-indent-citation-function))))) + (goto-char end) + (when (re-search-backward "^-- $" start t) + (delete-region (point) end)) (goto-char start) (while functions (funcall (pop functions))) Compilation exited abnormally with code 1 at Tue Jan 13 16:57:05 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: PATCH: Don't quote signature (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) 1998-01-13 15:58 ` PATCH: Don't quote signature (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) Per Abrahamsen @ 1998-01-14 23:57 ` Kim-Minh Kaplan 1998-01-15 0:15 ` Hrvoje Niksic 1998-02-08 15:18 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Kim-Minh Kaplan @ 1998-01-14 23:57 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 463 bytes --] Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes: > Here is a patch to `message-cite-original' which simply doesn't quote > the signature. I think that in the rare cases where the user *want* > to quote the signature, he can just cut and paste it manually. Gnus can put the quoted signature in the kill ring. Then pasting is really easy. Hmm, may be an empty kill should be added even when there is no signature for consistency... What do you think ? Kim-Minh. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 1041 bytes --] --- /usr/local/lib/xemacs/gnus/lisp/message.el Tue Jan 6 07:48:40 1998 +++ /usr/tmp/message.el Thu Jan 15 00:47:04 1998 @@ -1690,18 +1690,26 @@ (defun message-cite-original () "Cite function in the standard Message manner." (let ((start (point)) + (end (mark t)) + sig-start (functions (when message-indent-citation-function (if (listp message-indent-citation-function) message-indent-citation-function (list message-indent-citation-function))))) + (goto-char end) + (when (re-search-backward "^-- $" start t) + (setq sig-start (point-marker))) (goto-char start) (while functions (funcall (pop functions))) (when message-citation-line-function (unless (bolp) (insert "\n")) - (funcall message-citation-line-function)))) + (funcall message-citation-line-function)) + (when sig-start + (kill-region sig-start (mark t)) + (set-marker sig-start nil)))) (defun message-insert-citation-line () "Function that inserts a simple citation line." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: PATCH: Don't quote signature (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) 1998-01-14 23:57 ` Kim-Minh Kaplan @ 1998-01-15 0:15 ` Hrvoje Niksic 1998-01-15 8:52 ` Stig Sandbeck Mathisen 1998-01-18 13:16 ` Kim-Minh Kaplan 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Hrvoje Niksic @ 1998-01-15 0:15 UTC (permalink / raw) Kim-Minh Kaplan <KimMinh.Kaplan@utopia.eunet.fr> writes: > Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes: > > > Here is a patch to `message-cite-original' which simply doesn't quote > > the signature. I think that in the rare cases where the user *want* > > to quote the signature, he can just cut and paste it manually. > > Gnus can put the quoted signature in the kill ring. I don't think it's a good idea to push things to the kill ring without user being aware of them. The fact that someone might once want to quote the signature too is not a good reason to cruft the kill-ring with quoted sigs. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: PATCH: Don't quote signature (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) 1998-01-15 0:15 ` Hrvoje Niksic @ 1998-01-15 8:52 ` Stig Sandbeck Mathisen 1998-01-15 13:55 ` Per Abrahamsen 1998-01-18 13:16 ` Kim-Minh Kaplan 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Stig Sandbeck Mathisen @ 1998-01-15 8:52 UTC (permalink / raw) Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes: > I don't think it's a good idea to push things to the kill ring without > user being aware of them. The fact that someone might once want to > quote the signature too is not a good reason to cruft the kill-ring > with quoted sigs. Why not just make it a possibility for the user to set a variable to t, nil or ask (or something), so the user can decide for himself if he wants the sig or not in the reply? -- SSM - Stig Sandbeck Mathisen Trust the Computer, the Computer is your Friend ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: PATCH: Don't quote signature (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) 1998-01-15 8:52 ` Stig Sandbeck Mathisen @ 1998-01-15 13:55 ` Per Abrahamsen 1998-01-15 14:16 ` Lars Balker Rasmussen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Per Abrahamsen @ 1998-01-15 13:55 UTC (permalink / raw) Stig Sandbeck Mathisen <ssm@online.no> writes: > Why not just make it a possibility for the user to set a variable to > t, nil or ask (or something), so the user can decide for himself if he > wants the sig or not in the reply? Because there are already too many options. There is already a perfectly good way to quote the signature in the rare cases you would want that, namely manual cut and paste from the article buffer. Why introduce another? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: PATCH: Don't quote signature (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) 1998-01-15 13:55 ` Per Abrahamsen @ 1998-01-15 14:16 ` Lars Balker Rasmussen 1998-01-15 14:42 ` Per Abrahamsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Lars Balker Rasmussen @ 1998-01-15 14:16 UTC (permalink / raw) Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes: > Because there are already too many options. There is already a > perfectly good way to quote the signature in the rare cases you would > want that, namely manual cut and paste from the article buffer. Why > introduce another? Because it's not quoted when cut'n'pasted. Besides, you can never get too many options. -- Lars Balker Rasmussen, Software Engineer, Mjolner Informatics ApS lbr@mjolner.dk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: PATCH: Don't quote signature (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) 1998-01-15 14:16 ` Lars Balker Rasmussen @ 1998-01-15 14:42 ` Per Abrahamsen 1998-01-15 14:49 ` Lars Balker Rasmussen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Per Abrahamsen @ 1998-01-15 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding Lars Balker Rasmussen <lbr@mjolner.dk> writes: > Because it's not quoted when cut'n'pasted. Sure it is. > Besides, you can never get too many options. Yes you can. Its already pretty hard to find something in the Gnus manual or the customization hierarchy. > -- > Lars Balker Rasmussen, Software Engineer, Mjolner Informatics ApS > lbr@mjolner.dk Cut-and-pasted from the article buffer, quotation characters inserted manually. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: PATCH: Don't quote signature (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) 1998-01-15 14:42 ` Per Abrahamsen @ 1998-01-15 14:49 ` Lars Balker Rasmussen 1998-01-15 15:36 ` Per Abrahamsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Lars Balker Rasmussen @ 1998-01-15 14:49 UTC (permalink / raw) Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes: > Lars Balker Rasmussen <lbr@mjolner.dk> writes: > > Because it's not quoted when cut'n'pasted. > > Sure it is. Not automagically, which is what we were discussing? > > Besides, you can never get too many options. > > Yes you can. Its already pretty hard to find something in the Gnus > manual or the customization hierarchy. That seems to be the spirit of Emacs... -- Lars Balker Rasmussen, Software Engineer, Mjolner Informatics ApS lbr@mjolner.dk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: PATCH: Don't quote signature (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) 1998-01-15 14:49 ` Lars Balker Rasmussen @ 1998-01-15 15:36 ` Per Abrahamsen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Per Abrahamsen @ 1998-01-15 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ding Lars Balker Rasmussen <lbr@mjolner.dk> writes: > Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes: > > Lars Balker Rasmussen <lbr@mjolner.dk> writes: > > > Because it's not quoted when cut'n'pasted. > > > > Sure it is. > > Not automagically, which is what we were discussing? No, I say you can do it manually, which is sufficient for the rare times you need to do it. > > > Besides, you can never get too many options. > > > > Yes you can. Its already pretty hard to find something in the Gnus > > manual or the customization hierarchy. > > That seems to be the spirit of Emacs... Perhaps. But RMS agrees with me, he requered a good reason before adding a new option. I don't know the position of SLB. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: PATCH: Don't quote signature (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) 1998-01-15 0:15 ` Hrvoje Niksic 1998-01-15 8:52 ` Stig Sandbeck Mathisen @ 1998-01-18 13:16 ` Kim-Minh Kaplan 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Kim-Minh Kaplan @ 1998-01-18 13:16 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 857 bytes --] Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes: > Kim-Minh Kaplan <KimMinh.Kaplan@utopia.eunet.fr> writes: > > > Gnus can put the quoted signature in the kill ring. > > I don't think it's a good idea to push things to the kill ring without > user being aware of them. Hmm, I get your point. But if we don't do something, to cite a signature one has to do: C-x b * A r t i c l e * RET M-> C-u C-r ^ - - SPC RET C-> M-w C-x b RET C-y C-x C-x C-x r t > SPC RET Ugly ! And it may be even worse if you have a different citation leader. The attached code will provide `message-yank-cited-signatures' to fetch the quoted signature. > "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, > not tried it." -- Donald Knuth Well... Beware of features in the code below: I have only tried it :-) Kim-Minh. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 2375 bytes --] --- /usr/local/lib/xemacs/gnus/lisp/message.el Tue Jan 6 07:48:40 1998 +++ /usr/tmp/message.el Sun Jan 18 14:01:10 1998 @@ -814,6 +814,7 @@ (defvar message-this-is-news nil) (defvar message-this-is-mail nil) (defvar message-draft-article nil) +(defvar message-cite-signatures nil) ;; Byte-compiler warning (defvar gnus-active-hashtb) @@ -1170,6 +1171,7 @@ (define-key message-mode-map "\C-c\C-n" 'message-insert-newsgroups) (define-key message-mode-map "\C-c\C-y" 'message-yank-original) + (define-key message-mode-map "\C-cy" 'message-yank-cited-signatures) (define-key message-mode-map "\C-c\C-q" 'message-fill-yanked-message) (define-key message-mode-map "\C-c\C-w" 'message-insert-signature) (define-key message-mode-map "\C-c\C-r" 'message-caesar-buffer-body) @@ -1689,24 +1691,43 @@ (defun message-cite-original () "Cite function in the standard Message manner." + (unless (local-variable-p 'message-cite-signatures (current-buffer)) + (make-local-variable 'message-cite-signatures) + (setq message-cite-signatures nil)) (let ((start (point)) + (end (mark t)) + sig-start (functions (when message-indent-citation-function (if (listp message-indent-citation-function) message-indent-citation-function (list message-indent-citation-function))))) + (goto-char end) + (when (re-search-backward "^-- $" start t) + (setq sig-start (point-marker))) (goto-char start) (while functions (funcall (pop functions))) (when message-citation-line-function (unless (bolp) (insert "\n")) - (funcall message-citation-line-function)))) + (funcall message-citation-line-function)) + (when sig-start + (setq message-cite-signatures + (append message-cite-signatures + (list (buffer-substring sig-start (mark t))))) + (delete-region sig-start (mark t)) + (set-marker sig-start nil)))) (defun message-insert-citation-line () "Function that inserts a simple citation line." (when message-reply-headers (insert (mail-header-from message-reply-headers) " writes:\n\n"))) + +(defun message-yank-cited-signatures () + "Insert quoted signatures that where elided by the citation function." + (interactive) + (mapc 'insert message-cite-signatures)) (defun message-position-on-field (header &rest afters) (let ((case-fold-search t)) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: PATCH: Don't quote signature (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) 1998-01-13 15:58 ` PATCH: Don't quote signature (was: Re: GNKSA and Gnus) Per Abrahamsen 1998-01-14 23:57 ` Kim-Minh Kaplan @ 1998-02-08 15:18 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1998-02-08 15:18 UTC (permalink / raw) Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes: > > Providing an alternative to `message-cite-original' that removes the > > signature might be nice. > > Here is a patch to `message-cite-original' which simply doesn't quote > the signature. I think that in the rare cases where the user *want* > to quote the signature, he can just cut and paste it manually. The main problem is, I think, when responding to articles that are malformed; that have a signature delimiter before the body. So I've just added this as a new function, `message-cite-original-without-signature' that users may use if they want, but I won't make it the default. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
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