From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/10182 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Per Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: horrid color choices in 5.4.25 Date: 11 Mar 1997 15:26:46 +0100 Organization: The Church of Emacs Sender: abraham@dina.kvl.dk Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035150093 22881 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:41:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA02249 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 06:53:02 -0800 Original-Received: from elc1.dina.kvl.dk (elc1.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.228]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:28:39 +0100 Original-Received: from zuse.dina.kvl.dk (zuse.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.245]) by elc1.dina.kvl.dk (8.6.12/8.6.4) with ESMTP id PAA28663; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:17:52 +0100 Original-Received: (abraham@localhost) by zuse.dina.kvl.dk (8.6.12/8.6.4) id PAA27443; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:26:46 +0100 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no X-Face: +kRV2]2q}lixHkE{U)mY#+6]{AH=yN~S9@IFiOa@X6?GM|8MBp/ In-Reply-To: joda@pdc.kth.se's message of 11 Mar 1997 14:06:51 +0100 Original-Lines: 25 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.25/Emacs 19.34 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:10182 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:10182 My design criteria for the original colors was to maximize the angriness of the fruit salad, while still being useful. This should give the best "catch a newbie" effect. I think Lars' new colors (on a light background) are much more tasteful, and I especially like the artistic way the message buffer parallels the article buffer ;-). I personally believe the default colors are more important than the ability to change them. Maybe the new defaults will attract a different class of users. At some point, it could be fun to support desktop themes in customize. That is, each face could have many different values depending on which desktop theme the user had chosen. This would allow the user to choose between the old `Angry Fruit Salad' theme and the new `Shades of Purity' theme. More themes could be added when the artist among us feel inspired. Technically, i.e. from my point of view, it isn't significantly more complicated than the current situation, where you can define faces according to color model, background intensity, and font support. It would just be one extra parameter. The hard work would be for the people designing the themes.