From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu (mx2.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.33]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7775B24946 for ; Fri, 10 May 2024 02:44:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5EMi-0000000G0UH-1Ezj for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Thu, 09 May 2024 19:44:15 -0500 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5EMi-00000004L19-0Gpt for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Thu, 09 May 2024 19:44:00 -0500 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5EMg-00000004L13-1lyq for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 09 May 2024 19:43:58 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5EMe-00000004Clk-2dOs for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 09 May 2024 19:43:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=xJxWox3fnD/Ytm9yfJVYo+fa3U6GWiYtGB7gqSn3MsQ=; b=Ydn8CHng0OagwiL6B2HKg+YIMX IR8LL4V+dMaNQ5eOy2QtraldgapjJxgGpn02F7XddrnPzT8ygP7dO+lw+loYH8jyaAuarst1t/QWt +nIB9cERhQIiFBfoeBnil1cgLA8agFIXvLaoSAihdHNDseQKIN1ycOpzMQ8owGsWTVbY=; Received: from s1.lexort.com ([2605:2700:0:2:a800:ff:fe4b:be00]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s5EMW-0001Pj-HI for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 10 May 2024 02:43:51 +0200 Received: by s1.lexort.com (Postfix, from userid 10853) id 5596C4106FC; Thu, 9 May 2024 20:43:45 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lexort.com; s=mail; t=1715301825; bh=GLuaPe8t1ptGHps0CJ30lK8DZkc1OswMZx4m5y+6yxo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=H2GRyixOXufGFs9TBg7k5MmbzBys35HlHyWLHAMNhY5jn8dDtFFqEnLmcSvaDWOwl /BwIL1HmoOLpSK5v3gft61Vryw3Hw+uGUf0cRtMby3Gy50x3F0+7/8HCzWtpQWxhIs HLgkP2qYQameOG290/A59YJoMYLQXdh6o5yjKRT0= From: Greg Troxel To: Xiyue Deng Cc: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: Gnus sometimes reports new messages but not showing them on IMAP server References: <87h6g7mm8r.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <878r1blqcg.fsf@uwo.ca> <87ttjx55ey.fsf@uwo.ca> <875xwalmf4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wmoqjf92.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874jbmk2ql.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> OpenPGP: id=098ED60E Date: Thu, 09 May 2024 20:43:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: <874jbmk2ql.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> (Xiyue Deng's message of "Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:46:42 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xiyue Deng writes: > This makes much sense. I'll try M-g the next time this happens. Thanks > everyone! I had a situation where a message arrived in INBOX. I could see it in the filesystem dovecot reads, and in other clients. It was as if it did not exist in gnus. M-g on the group in *Group* buffer seems to have resolved that. It is interesting that moving out and back resolved what I think is the same situation in the past. Just making up stuff without basis: It's like a missing wakeup in a synchronization protocol. > Also I would expect the equivalent of M-g to happen on startup so that > there are less surprises. Agreed, but I can see the point of not blowing caches just because of startup.