From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78097 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: agent/fetch only articles from certain levels Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 08:45:15 +0100 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: References: <87zkokei6u.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <3waagj1nen.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> <87lj03v23l.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87zkojjioy.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <8762r79fb0.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87ipv69ahl.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <871v1uaopg.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301129185 2213 80.91.229.12 (26 Mar 2011 08:46:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 08:46:25 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26408@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Mar 26 09:46:20 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3P8W-0002FA-2r for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:46:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3P7Q-0007sa-Q0; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 03:45:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3P7O-0007sO-RN for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 03:45:10 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3P7N-0005Cc-3C for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 03:45:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wy0-f172.google.com ([74.125.82.172]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3P7M-0000XT-9N for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 09:45:08 +0100 Original-Received: by wyb29 with SMTP id 29so1642935wyb.17 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 01:45:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization :message-id:references:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=V0pWiWGGhVtSAQNRa7z0Kt4tcnRJE3YYVbsQqLOJrkE=; b=n231QiA897lsqzTvrxv3UNtlbEw2d+C0GIKRL6YNKnU5MPvJpG+2E+hCT8+Z1NNcVl wt2kswldtnhm7E/Ob/AIQdxPuA1bt3jyZDOGLubWHzPbov5aW8q2bbfPm9fQSmfUYQQt nhur0XYMxJLLfPgO9wk6b/4vJl+AB86iTsohQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:date:organization:message-id:references :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IHjj3aD2dWFbXRCDV4FpWUNRGpilD23QrpaQZYaVIkCDJh6Wh6EUGJwCCjUoi04TNZ ddkg3saV1dC94Se3xvTLofPZwNBU3ig6UyoBEdKnC3wDzsEBlFd5K/4NB+BpATSbP7+0 tbdDQbC8UKU5YdUgXzi5wpWd/C6BIuqPuZ41Y= Original-Received: by 10.216.152.193 with SMTP id d43mr1660762wek.53.1301129102553; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 01:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from asus1015pem (175.Red-217-126-211.staticIP.rima-tde.net [217.126.211.175]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g32sm623883wej.3.2011.03.26.01.45.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 26 Mar 2011 01:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from shamrock by asus1015pem with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q3OBl-0002tb-GO for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 08:45:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: <871v1uaopg.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> ("Adam \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Sj\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?\=C3\=B8gren\=22's\?\= message of "Fri, 25 Mar 2011 22:13:15 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110015 (No Gnus v0.15) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78097 Archived-At: asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sj=C3=B8gren) writes: > On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 21:05:42 +0000, Eric wrote: > >> Adam, thanks for the pointer to the relevant place in the manual. My >> guess was basically completely wrong. Oh well... > >> However, I am not sure the documentation really explains anything at >> all. > > How did you then get to the understanding that you were wrong, then? > >> It's the kind of documentation that makes sense if you already know >> what it is telling you and otherwise just sounds like a circular >> definition... and, unfortunately, there are quite a few sections like >> this in the gnus manual. > > I am sure suggestions for improvements are very welcome! > > What I got from reading it is that groups from servers in select-method > and secondary-select-methods are called native and other groups are > called foreign. Seems quite straightforward? > Except they the are not. Since the gnus-activate-foreign-newsgroups applies to groups created from secondary select methods. >> In any case, this definitely doesn't help me (or the OP maybe) >> understand why the default activation level for native groups is 6 and >> for foreign is 4; and what about secondary...? And how any of this >> relates to agents? > > I don't use any of those thingamajigs, so I haven't got the foggiest. > Sorry I can't be of any help. If you had, maybe you could understand the issue above about the foreign groups naming convention. > > Best regards, > > Adam --=20 =E2=98=98 http://www.shamrockirishbar.com, http://splash-of-open-sauce.blog= spot.com/ http://www.richardriley.net