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From: Bill White <billw@wolfram.com>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: can gnus-unread-mark be a ham mark?
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:00:57 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ruoad7hik12.fsf_-_@billw2lx.wolfram.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4n4qxqwxjm.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:33:01 -0500")

On Thu Oct 30 2003 at 09:33, Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> said:

>> 2) In a spam folder, the default mark is the spam mark.  How do I
>>    mark sonmething as ham?  When I exit the folder, if I have
>>    specified both hm and spam exit processors, will both kinds of
>>    message be sent out to be trained?
>
> Spam and ham marks are actually customizable (though spam marks
> should probably be just the spam mark).  Do `G c' on a group or
> topic to customize its spam/ham marks, or use M-x customize-variable
> on the variables gnus-parameter-ham-marks-alist and
> gnus-parameter-spam-marks-alist to achieve the same effect.  This is
> in the manual.

When I find ham in my spam group, I have a long-standing habit of
unmarking it with M-u (gnus-summary-clear-mark-forward), then moving
it somewhere useful to be acted on.  According to gnus-sum.el, it
looks as though M-u marks the message with gnus-unread-mark.

I suspect spam.el could move the message for me when I exit the group
if only it recognized gnus-unread-mark as one of the ham marks.
However, since spam.el doesn't currently notice gnus-unread-mark, my
newly-unmarked ham isn't handled by spam.el when I exit the group.

So I have a few questions:

- Does it make sense to consider these unmarked messages (messages
  marked with gnus-unread-mark) as ham when exiting a spam group?  It
  sure does to me, but maybe I'm weird.

- What's a good way to make gnus-unread-mark one of the recognized ham
  marks?  I hesitate to copy (gnus-define-group-parameter
  ham-marks... from gnus.el and redefine it in one of my startup
  files.

- Should gnus-unread-mark be added to the default value of
  gnus-parameter-ham-marks-alist?

Thanks for this magnificent spam-fighting machinery, Ted!

Cheers -

bw
-- 
Bill White . billw@wolfram.com . http://members.wri.com/billw
"No ma'am, we're musicians."




  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-10-31 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-30  1:50 spam/ham processing Jake Colman
2003-10-30 15:33 ` Ted Zlatanov
2003-10-30 17:13   ` Jake Colman
2003-10-31 14:00   ` Bill White [this message]
2003-10-31 16:47     ` can gnus-unread-mark be a ham mark? Ted Zlatanov
2003-10-31 17:09       ` Bill White
2003-10-31 17:35         ` Jake Colman
2003-10-31 17:52           ` Ted Zlatanov
2003-10-31 17:53           ` Bill White

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