From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/54588 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill White Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: can gnus-unread-mark be a ham mark? Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:00:57 -0600 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <764qxr3356.fsf@newjersey.ppllc.com> <4n4qxqwxjm.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067608919 30431 80.91.224.253 (31 Oct 2003 14:01:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 14:01:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3129@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Oct 31 15:01:57 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AFZqe-0004rF-00 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:01:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AFZpt-0005nP-00; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:01:09 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AFZpl-0005nJ-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:01:01 -0600 Original-Received: from wolfram.com (wri-dns0.wolfram.com [140.177.205.10]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02613A0056 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:01:00 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from billw2lx.wolfram.com.wolfram.com (dmz5.wolfram.com [140.177.205.1]) by wolfram.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h9VE0wM19209; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 08:00:58 -0600 Original-To: Ted Zlatanov X-Phone: 217-398-0700 x 234 X-Fax: 217-398-0747 In-Reply-To: <4n4qxqwxjm.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:33:01 -0500") X-Liturgical-Date: Weekday: Friday of the Thirtieth Week of Ordinary Time User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54588 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:54588 On Thu Oct 30 2003 at 09:33, Ted Zlatanov said: >> 2) In a spam folder, the default mark is the spam mark. How do I >> mark sonmething as ham? When I exit the folder, if I have >> specified both hm and spam exit processors, will both kinds of >> message be sent out to be trained? > > Spam and ham marks are actually customizable (though spam marks > should probably be just the spam mark). Do `G c' on a group or > topic to customize its spam/ham marks, or use M-x customize-variable > on the variables gnus-parameter-ham-marks-alist and > gnus-parameter-spam-marks-alist to achieve the same effect. This is > in the manual. When I find ham in my spam group, I have a long-standing habit of unmarking it with M-u (gnus-summary-clear-mark-forward), then moving it somewhere useful to be acted on. According to gnus-sum.el, it looks as though M-u marks the message with gnus-unread-mark. I suspect spam.el could move the message for me when I exit the group if only it recognized gnus-unread-mark as one of the ham marks. However, since spam.el doesn't currently notice gnus-unread-mark, my newly-unmarked ham isn't handled by spam.el when I exit the group. So I have a few questions: - Does it make sense to consider these unmarked messages (messages marked with gnus-unread-mark) as ham when exiting a spam group? It sure does to me, but maybe I'm weird. - What's a good way to make gnus-unread-mark one of the recognized ham marks? I hesitate to copy (gnus-define-group-parameter ham-marks... from gnus.el and redefine it in one of my startup files. - Should gnus-unread-mark be added to the default value of gnus-parameter-ham-marks-alist? Thanks for this magnificent spam-fighting machinery, Ted! Cheers - bw -- Bill White . billw@wolfram.com . http://members.wri.com/billw "No ma'am, we're musicians."