From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52291 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill White Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: The early gnus shars Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 22:17:48 -0500 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <65orpvqy.fsf@asfast.com> <84n0i2etnm.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <86bryiecs4.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <867k96ecch.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <65oq8l2f.fsf_-_@asfast.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052104767 1554 80.91.224.249 (5 May 2003 03:19:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 03:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M834@lists.math.uh.edu Mon May 05 05:19:20 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19CWTS-0000Ii-00 for ; Mon, 05 May 2003 05:17:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19CWUK-0004FI-00; Sun, 04 May 2003 22:18:00 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19CWUC-0004FC-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 04 May 2003 22:17:52 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 84646 invoked by alias); 5 May 2003 03:17:51 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 84641 invoked from network); 5 May 2003 03:17:51 -0000 Original-Received: from wri-dns0.wolfram.com (HELO wolfram.com) (140.177.205.10) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 5 May 2003 03:17:51 -0000 Original-Received: from billw2lx.wolfram.com.wolfram.com (dmz5.wolfram.com [140.177.205.1]) by wolfram.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h453Hm111535; Sun, 4 May 2003 22:17:49 -0500 Original-To: Lloyd Zusman X-Phone: 217-398-0700 x 234 X-Fax: 217-398-0747 In-Reply-To: (Lloyd Zusman's message of "Sun, 04 May 2003 22:06:03 -0400") X-Liturgical-Date: Sunday: Third Sunday of Easter Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEXhi3LTqo5aNDHhybK0 Z1QrCgWzjXOMRjFnp3EdAAACN0lEQVR4nGWTTW/bMAyGmcWAr8kSeNdCq6PrVBbu1XM5627M2LlO 4F4DVQ3//igpqrNVB1viI778kASIWxlmm0ZVVXMakMDVPM/bz6CySint5+o/UL2PMgLJINlf6zGC QF4WUE3RPigh3FcLeL3aa1WPmhePKukknyGFgeAwZbsaZMvAfQa/wip6xQ9fMpDlPbnRCQgumhcw EHSKnFJj1orBZd6CVefSqZhB0AKTQaE9kI8ogpDtOP4BgM7LR0IJ8AnsE4AACitBHCfwLYLVBjLQ C7gDmXyALCXgLB74I8Sg+iZ4PfCZClpdPYYM9u439P2K2wjGBWzsHZTuwZ+JmDlXHsAXCUHWU0fW qptebcogQq2fnpQOwGewb2Om586ytPHmPAoB61UBZcGak1JKV8AaNi2UrYSP5V2BJYBNAeuyLcAm pSRFIkUSXf6FTUo3gMiyZNAlpSsgKFjiavFw7l9Qeila+VZqX4Bh8Qi1O91arTLYGWOJYu2WvVX6 koDZNdImG4419Msq1+f38SjrWseekwD+eDiNZFoP8SYwd6/6w6PxRO/S0lZOT7vG+lvQhVOQs9AK cUpNfEZj+3AFBun4yPWbeXTxtr8hfj2cgku4tU59R6yYBPxEfFL9id7Tg9ICjNMCdrJDJhQurTz0 yxFxT9IWMNg8P6j7+STNEjAj4szeMZiGjo1YPAW7ahB3hpgs7J8OiCqPQ/OCBuf5tAXaiuqUwdFM l0bCmiOw2PFhAc1FzGL6C38EE0ct5kxcAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52291 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52291 On Sun May 04 2003 at 21:06, Lloyd Zusman said: > So tahat's around 2 minutes startup time for 12,000 groups. If we went > with the B News maximum of 512, that's a factor of 24, or only 5 seconds > for startup. That doesn't seem bad, until you remember how slow the > machines were back then. > > I wonder if we'll ever find a 1.x or even 0.x version of gnus to > play with. > > So far, I haven't gotten a reply from Masanobu ... if he does get back > to me, I'm going to ask him if he knows of any earlier versions. Someone should write a book, or at least a long texinfo file. Cheers - bw -- Bill White . billw@wolfram.com . http://members.wri.com/billw "No ma'am, we're musicians."