Re: [0.95]: faulty display of article in pgnus Summary buffer

Re: [0.95]: faulty display of article in pgnus Summary buffer

[Slawek Zak]

** Bill White <billw@wolfram.com> wrote:

    Bill> [Courtesy copy sent to Ehud Karni] This posting from Ehud
    Bill> Karni to gnu.emacs.sources displays incorrectly in my Gnus
    Bill> Summary buffer:

    Bill> R [ 0: Ehud Karni ] [12-31-69 18:00:00] Dired enhancement

    Bill> Here are the headers:
[snip]

    Bill> I'm using:
[snip]

What do you mean incorrectly ? What have you set
gnus-summary-line-format to ?
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Re: [0.95]: faulty display of article in pgnus Summary buffer

[Bill White]

On 30 Jul 1999 13:43:05 +0200
in article <87g126tlbq.fsf@prioris.im.pw.edu.pl>
Slawek Zak <zaks@prioris.im.pw.edu.pl> said:

  sz> ** Bill White <billw@wolfram.com> wrote:
  Bill> [Courtesy copy sent to Ehud Karni] This posting from Ehud
  Bill> Karni to gnu.emacs.sources displays incorrectly in my Gnus
  Bill> Summary buffer:

  Bill> R [ 0: Ehud Karni ] [12-31-69 18:00:00] Dired enhancement

  Bill> Here are the headers:
  sz> [snip]

  Bill> I'm using:
  sz> [snip]

  sz> What do you mean incorrectly ? 

The number of lines is reported as 0, and the date is reported at
18:00:00 on 12-31-69. 

The actual message contained lines, and the headers showed a current
date.

  sz> What have you set
  sz> gnus-summary-line-format to ?

Ah. Hm. 

gnus-summary-line-format's value is 
"%U%R%z%([%5L: %-20,20f]%) [%~(cut-left 4)~(max-right 2)o-%~(cut-left 6)~(max-right 2)o-%~(cut-left 2)~(max-right 2)o %~(cut-left 9)~(max-right 2)o:%~(cut-left 11)~(max-right 2)o:%~(cut-left 13)~(max-right 2)o] %s\n"

All the cutting, etc., is to get a date format that I like. 

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Re: [0.95]: faulty display of article in pgnus Summary buffer

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Bill White <billw@wolfram.com> writes:

> This posting from Ehud Karni to gnu.emacs.sources displays incorrectly
> in my Gnus Summary buffer:
> 
> R  [    0: Ehud Karni          ] [12-31-69 18:00:00] Dired enhancement

[...]

> DATE: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:22:04 GMT

[...]

> The number of lines is reported as 0, and the date is reported at
> 18:00:00 on 12-31-69. 
> 
> The actual message contained lines, and the headers showed a current
> date.

There was no Lines header, which explains why Gnus reported zero
lines.

The Date thing is weirder, though.  That it's upper case shouldn't
matter.  And

(gnus-date-iso8601 "Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:22:04 GMT")
=> "19990729T152204"

Hm.  Perhaps the upper-caseness is what makes it freak out, but the
parsing functions seem to have `case-fold-search' bound.

Weird.

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Re: [0.95]: faulty display of article in pgnus Summary buffer

[Russ Allbery]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> There was no Lines header, which explains why Gnus reported zero lines.

You really want to pull your lines value from overview rather than from
the Lines header if available.  The Lines header is discouraged, and may
even be deprecated, in USEFOR, due to the fact that it's unreliable in
practice (leading to errors just like the above).  Overview is
"guaranteed" correct by the local server.

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Re: [0.95]: faulty display of article in pgnus Summary buffer

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:

> You really want to pull your lines value from overview rather than from
> the Lines header if available.  The Lines header is discouraged, and may
> even be deprecated, in USEFOR, due to the fact that it's unreliable in
> practice (leading to errors just like the above).  Overview is
> "guaranteed" correct by the local server.

We do, but this was for an .overview-less mail backend.

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: [0.95]: faulty display of article in pgnus Summary buffer

[Russ Allbery]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:

>> You really want to pull your lines value from overview rather than from
>> the Lines header if available.  The Lines header is discouraged, and
>> may even be deprecated, in USEFOR, due to the fact that it's unreliable
>> in practice (leading to errors just like the above).  Overview is
>> "guaranteed" correct by the local server.

> We do, but this was for an .overview-less mail backend.

Ah, okay, sorry.  I was confused by the fact that the original message
said it was in gnus.emacs.sources.

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Re: [0.95]: faulty display of article in pgnus Summary buffer

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu> writes:

> Ah, okay, sorry.  I was confused by the fact that the original message
> said it was in gnus.emacs.sources.

Oh, er, sorry; I missed that.  :-)

In that case, it's probably the nntp server's fault -- buggy NOV lines 
or something.

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