From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/53202 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Love Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: something decodes my headers... Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:17:35 +0100 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1055888264 9747 80.91.224.249 (17 Jun 2003 22:17:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 22:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M1746@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Jun 18 00:17:43 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19SOlr-0002X2-00 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 00:17:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19SOlo-0002B1-00; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:17:40 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19SOlk-0002Aw-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:17:36 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 79436 invoked by alias); 17 Jun 2003 22:17:36 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 79431 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2003 22:17:36 -0000 Original-Received: from albion.dl.ac.uk (148.79.80.39) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 17 Jun 2003 22:17:36 -0000 Original-Received: from fx by albion.dl.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19SOlj-00067D-00 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 23:17:35 +0100 Original-To: "Ding" User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53202 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53202 jas@extundo.com (Simon Josefsson) writes: > What does "works" mean? It doesn't fail in the way that's being complained about. > I'm not aware of any standards that define > how non-ASCII email address phrases should work (RFC (2)822 even > forbid them) except MIME, so any implementation claiming to support it > if it doesn't use MIME is ad-hoc at best. It's obviously intended for use with decoded addresses, which is how it's being used. > In that case, I wish the way it works was documented. You'll need to make a bug report if you're not happy. I haven't actually touched it, though I'd have guessed I made the relevant change. > It is not clear to me how to go from the RFC 822 address phrase to > multilingual names, if you are not using MIME. It's clear you can't pick apart a single MIME encoded word in the way mail-extr tries to. It must be decoded, and the exact (2)822 grammar is irrelevant. > Of course, mail-extr doesn't > understand the RFC 822 BNF at all, so it is not easy to realize that > whatever mail-extr implement is according to any standard derived from > the BNF. I don't understand that. The BNF is largely irrelevant for extracting personal names from addresses as far as I can tell.