From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/74981 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Streamlining first-time Gnus usage Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:21:27 +0100 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1292322108 11439 80.91.229.12 (14 Dec 2010 10:21:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 10:21:48 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M23337@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Dec 14 11:21:44 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PSS0n-0004Ok-Nk for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:21:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PSS0k-0002Er-5O; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 04:21:34 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PSS0i-0002Ed-Vo for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 04:21:32 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PSS0h-00054B-T3 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 04:21:32 -0600 Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f45.google.com ([209.85.214.45]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PSS0h-0002QH-0I for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:21:31 +0100 Original-Received: by bwz16 with SMTP id 16so613184bwz.32 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 02:21:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:organization :references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version :content-type; bh=lF0iW8mDhmx/GgLRDz0MZYCkHhm1sz79EuPdoBhnQ6U=; b=UOrTHlLlRiTMDIEmWA4uzae8z7W8FG9yZi0M4LnjLUpQ6KUESK9x9ySeWTN/pskVoy 0GUQ2KfR17i+1wt/HDdQfGnO94ZdZHMO9+BXj/p6NlFAkS6HS4iHOKiuRNf9kgsf325/ vRR3TUlNY0rz2KD4Km+i4SAHY7s3681Vqj4Cs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:organization:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=FKltrx150dM8f52fTAP0zpCbxi6aRbc5/tobUSk9SgkxJpiMWCZPfO0fqGfTzjk+0F 4JvD7LIsQbUv49kFJitJtd0qW6qJOc+iR9db7Ep3LhC7ZIUc7z5NMIcEf4MwY/oUOjhp ZVnbSeTKnRT8X0TufX6Ux5B1f2kxEX52+g4B0= Original-Received: by 10.204.148.74 with SMTP id o10mr4881279bkv.109.1292322090513; Tue, 14 Dec 2010 02:21:30 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost ([85.183.18.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v1sm598577bkt.5.2010.12.14.02.21.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 14 Dec 2010 02:21:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Julien Danjou's message of "Mon, 13 Dec 2010 17:15:23 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:74981 Archived-At: Julien Danjou writes: > On Mon, Dec 13 2010, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > >> The mission: To make first-time Gnus usage not suck. > > Good idea. :) > >> (Long-term we want to use Assistants, but let's just contemplate Gnus >> defaults for the time being.) > > I don't think assistants is a good solution. That would just hide a > complexity. But things should not be complex. > >> So, created a brand new test user, and I put the following in my .emacs >> file: >> >> (setq gnus-select-method '(nnimap "imap.gmail.com")) > > FWIW, it took me several weeks until I understand what was the > differences between gnus-select-method and > gnus-secondary-select-methods. That could be a starting point. Could you explain? Many old hands dont even use the primary method at all anymore from what I have gathered.