From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/56348 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mike FABIAN Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Status of XEmacs' (21.5) UTF-8 capabilities Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:16:46 +0100 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1076516580 7768 80.91.224.253 (11 Feb 2004 16:23:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M4888@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Feb 11 17:22:46 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Aqx8P-0004eW-00 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:22:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Aqx8A-00054j-00; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:22:30 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Aqx81-00054b-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:22:21 -0600 Original-Received: from Cantor.suse.de (ns.suse.de [195.135.220.2]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED573A007F for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:22:20 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from hermes.suse.de (Hermes.suse.de [195.135.221.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by Cantor.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6901AC999 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:16:46 +0100 (CET) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "';oPz9V1+<,`}1ZuxRv~EiSusWq*{Yjr"Sdvbhq'?q=2R\\6Y9O/,SAE`{J|6I=|w/sQg< rW_N'E3IV6~f8?\l#Es`]S`mv',PY(`8{$$R?+gLu}Qv/Mn>)?uladFjJ@yl!_p_Jh;5QxlD6zL:?r IXe4FfK$C^mWhh$o`yt;.r.FLZLQOWBt> (Mike FABIAN's message of "Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:37:51 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Rational FORTRAN, linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56348 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56348 Mike FABIAN =E3=81=95=E3=82=93=E3=81=AF=E6=9B=B8=E3=81=8D= =E3=81=BE=E3=81=97=E3=81=9F: > You need to patch Gnus v5.10.6 a little bit. Attached is the small patch > for Gnus v5.10.6 which I use to make XEmacs be able to post in UTF-8: OK, with my patch I can post in UTF-8. But now I would like to know how I can disable this for certain recipients. Unfortunately most web-mail services cannot yet handle UTF-8. If I write a mail containing Japanese *and* German to somebody with a @yahoo.co.jp, @hotmail.com, ... address, and I don't remember that I must not use real German umlauts (=C3=A4=C3=BC=C3=B6=C3=84=C3=9C=C3=96=C3=9F) but rather= the ASCII replacements ae, ue, oe, Ae, Ue, Oe, ss, then XEmacs/Gnus sends it as UTF-8 and the Japanese becomes completely unreadable for the recipient. Therefore I wonder whether it is already possible with Gnus to force a certain encoding depending on the address of the recipient. For example, if the To: address matches one of the above mentioned web-mailers, use ISO-2022-JP encoding, no matter what. This would of course destroy German Umlauts, but that usually doesn't make the German completely unreadable (contrary to Japanese which becomes complete garbage for the reader when his MUA doesn't support the encoding). Does anything like this already exist in Gnus? --=20 Mike FABIAN http://www.suse.de/~mfabian =E7=9D=A1=E7=9C=A0=E4=B8=8D=E8=B6=B3=E3=81=AF=E3=81=84=E3=81=84=E4=BB=95=E4= =BA=8B=E3=81=AE=E6=95=B5=E3=81=A0=E3=80=82