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Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:

> * patl@cag.lcs.mit.edu (Patrick J. LoPresti)  on Fri, 10 Dec 1999
> | Qmail is an *Internet* mail delivery agent;
> 
> No, it is a mail transport agent (MTA) that speaks simple mail transfer
> protocol (SMTP).

Blah blah blah.  Fine.  I should have said, "Qmail is an Internet mail
system."  It is a collection of programs for handling Internet mail.
qmail-inject is one of those programs; no, it does not speak SMTP,
because that is a different program's job.

All of which affects the point not at all.  The operative term was
"Internet"; sorry I didn't emphasize it.  Oh, wait, I did.

> Rewriting headers of an RFC 822 message for canonicity is a good thing.
> But if a message is not an RFC 822 message, qmail-inject has absolutely no
> grounds for turning it into an RFC 822 message.  And even then, rewriting
> To and Cc is a Really Bad Idea because it can and eventually will cause
> mail not to be delivered properly (see my response to Kai's message for
> some details).

sendmail does so EVEN FOR SMTP MESSAGES, which is broken blah blah
blah oh I give up.

 - Pat