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Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:

> * Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>  on Fri, 10 Dec 1999
> | Um...  sendmail even rewrites To and Cc headers it gets via SMTP.
> | sendmail is horribly broken in this regard.

> Hmmm... I'll be damned, and you are right on both counts.  Well, v8
> sendmail does, anyway.  I do not have immediate access to a v5
> sendmail to compare.

Of course he's right, because he restated what I have said from the
beginning.

sendmail has always been broken like this.  And now that Outlook and
Netscape and Eudora and MH and every other piece-of-sh** MUA are
broken in a complementary way, every MTA ever written until the end of
time will need to be similarly broken.

I was thinking maybe Emacs+message-mode+smtpmail could provide a
non-broken MUA, but what would be the point, really, I guess.

 - Pat