* Different "Re:" Styles
@ 1996-08-29 23:18 Jens Lautenbacher
1996-08-29 23:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Jens Lautenbacher @ 1996-08-29 23:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
I have often discussion with someone who has a mailer that marks
Replies with "Aw:" instead of "Re:". The net result is that gnus is no
longer able to thread the posting-answer-backanswer-.... chain and
message produces "Re: Aw: blabla" for my answers on his first answer.
Is there any possibility to tune gnus in a way that it is able to
process "Aw:" at the beginning og a subject line the same way ot does
for "Re:" ?????
Yours,
Jens
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* Re: Different "Re:" Styles
1996-08-29 23:18 Different "Re:" Styles Jens Lautenbacher
@ 1996-08-29 23:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1996-08-30 7:15 ` Jost Krieger
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-08-29 23:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
Jens Lautenbacher <jens@lemming0.lem.uni-karlsruhe.de> writes:
> I have often discussion with someone who has a mailer that marks
> Replies with "Aw:" instead of "Re:". The net result is that gnus is no
> longer able to thread the posting-answer-backanswer-.... chain and
> message produces "Re: Aw: blabla" for my answers on his first answer.
>
> Is there any possibility to tune gnus in a way that it is able to
> process "Aw:" at the beginning og a subject line the same way ot does
> for "Re:" ?????
No, the Re: is hardcoded all over the place. "Aw:" is broken. Make
somebody fix that brainded mailer.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: Different "Re:" Styles
1996-08-29 23:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 1996-08-30 7:15 ` Jost Krieger
1996-08-30 9:43 ` Per Abrahamsen
1996-08-30 19:02 ` Ken Raeburn
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From: Jost Krieger @ 1996-08-30 7:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:
Lars> Jens Lautenbacher <jens@lemming0.lem.uni-karlsruhe.de> writes:
>> I have often discussion with someone who has a mailer that marks
>> Replies with "Aw:" instead of "Re:". The net result is that gnus
>> is no longer able to thread the
>> posting-answer-backanswer-.... chain and message produces "Re: Aw:
>> blabla" for my answers on his first answer.
>>
>> Is there any possibility to tune gnus in a way that it is able to
>> process "Aw:" at the beginning og a subject line the same way ot
>> does for "Re:" ?????
Lars> No, the Re: is hardcoded all over the place. "Aw:" is broken.
Lars> Make somebody fix that brainded mailer.
Yes, yes, yes and no. It is hardcoded, it is braindead, it should be fixed,
but "somebody" is Microsoft. "Aw:" is in reality "AW:", stands probably for "Antwort",
German for "Reply", and is contained in (the German version of) Microsoft Exchange.
Fat chance of getting that fixed.
By the way, they also put "WL:", where you would expect "Fwd:" ...
Jost
--
Jost Krieger, Postmaster, Rechenzentrum der Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum
Jost.Krieger@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
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* Re: Different "Re:" Styles
1996-08-30 7:15 ` Jost Krieger
@ 1996-08-30 9:43 ` Per Abrahamsen
1996-08-30 12:36 ` Jost Krieger
1996-08-31 6:49 ` Jason L Tibbitts III
1996-08-30 19:02 ` Ken Raeburn
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From: Per Abrahamsen @ 1996-08-30 9:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
The Seal of Good Netkeeping seems to allow rewrites that compensate
for broken software like Microsoft Exchange:
The Good Net-Keeping Seal of Approval says:
> Exception: The software MAY try to compensate for other people's
> broken software by stripping off such non-standard prefixes as
> "Re(2): ", "Re:" (no space), "RE: ", "re: ", or "Re: Re: " and
> replacing them with "Re: ".
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* Re: Different "Re:" Styles
1996-08-30 9:43 ` Per Abrahamsen
@ 1996-08-30 12:36 ` Jost Krieger
1996-08-30 19:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
1996-08-31 6:49 ` Jason L Tibbitts III
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From: Jost Krieger @ 1996-08-30 12:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
For the case of Mail, I cannot find *any* codification of "Re: ", however.
Jost
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* Re: Different "Re:" Styles
1996-08-30 7:15 ` Jost Krieger
1996-08-30 9:43 ` Per Abrahamsen
@ 1996-08-30 19:02 ` Ken Raeburn
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From: Ken Raeburn @ 1996-08-30 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
> Yes, yes, yes and no. It is hardcoded, it is braindead, it should be fixed,
> but "somebody" is Microsoft. "Aw:" is in reality "AW:", stands probably for "Antwort",
> German for "Reply", and is contained in (the German version of) Microsoft Exchange.
> Fat chance of getting that fixed.
Well, maybe *they* won't fix it, but it's probably a simple matter of
applying emacs to the binary... :-) It's most likely in there as a
simple constant string. (And if you do find the right offset, there's
probably some simple set of commands you can give to some DOS/Windoze
editor or debugger to make the same fix, simple enough that you can
publicize it for any user who doesn't even know what "binary" means.)
"Fixing" wl->fwd may be more troublesome, since the strings are of
different length.
(Of course, I don't have the program, I try to avoid Windows when
possible, and I don't know for sure how they code the "Re:"/"Aw:"
addition. I could be wrong. It could be very hard to change.)
It should at least be reported as a bug by as many people as possible,
and make sure you let them know why it's wrong. If it isn't reported,
then there's an even smaller chance they'll fix it.
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* Re: Different "Re:" Styles
1996-08-30 12:36 ` Jost Krieger
@ 1996-08-30 19:39 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1996-08-30 19:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
Jost Krieger <Jost.Krieger@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> writes:
> For the case of Mail, I cannot find *any* codification of "Re: ",
> however.
No, RFC822 does not specify that the Subject in replies should have
"Re: " prepended. RFC822 was written in a long-gone age, where things
that were self-evident simply was not discussed. RFC822 wasn't
written to be read by morons -- ``Hey, RFC822 doesn't explicitly
prohibit us from adding the string "wE aRe ElItE!!!!!1!!" to the end
of all lines passing through our server, so let's do that!!!!1!'' --
so MicroSoft Exchange can add whatever it wants to any parts of all
mail messages it generates. Don't expect me to bother with dealing
with the junk, though.
--
"Yes. The journey through the human heart
would have to wait until some other time."
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* Re: Different "Re:" Styles
1996-08-30 9:43 ` Per Abrahamsen
1996-08-30 12:36 ` Jost Krieger
@ 1996-08-31 6:49 ` Jason L Tibbitts III
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From: Jason L Tibbitts III @ 1996-08-31 6:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "PA" == Per Abrahamsen <abraham@dina.kvl.dk> writes:
PA> The Seal of Good Netkeeping seems to allow rewrites that compensate for
PA> broken software like Microsoft Exchange:
Didn't we go through this once already? I recall a big argument with no
resolution.
- J<
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