customizing gnus-posting-styles?

customizing gnus-posting-styles?

[John H. Palmieri]

So ShengHuo ZHU has this nice signature:

  (setq gnus-posting-styles '((".*" (signature-file "~/.signature"))))

I typed 'C-h v gnus-posting-styles' and was told (among other things)

  You can customize this variable.

When I type 'M-x customize-variable gnus-posting-styles', on the other
hand, I am told

  Variable gnus-posting-styles cannot be customized

gnus-posting-styles is defined in gnus-msg, where it is defined using
defvar.  So why am I told that I can customize it?  Does this happen
with everyone, or is there something screwy in my setup?

(This is with Oort Gnus v0.01, taken from cvs on January 11 or so.)

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John H. Palmieri                      
Dept of Mathematics, Box 354350    palmieri@math.washington.edu
University of Washington	   http://www.math.washington.edu/~palmieri/
Seattle, WA 98195-4350

Re: customizing gnus-posting-styles?

[Eric Jacoboni]

>>>>> "John" == John H Palmieri <palmieri@math.washington.edu> writes:

John> I typed 'C-h v gnus-posting-styles' and was told (among other things)

John>   You can customize this variable.

Curious. With the same command, i dont get this message but :

gnus-posting-styles's value is 
((".*"
  (signature ma-signature)
  (address "jaco@teaser.fr"))
 ("fr.usenet.logiciels"
  (address "jaco@titine.fr.eu.org")))
 

Documentation:
*Alist of styles to use when posting.

Defined in `gnus-msg'.

John> (This is with Oort Gnus v0.01, taken from cvs on January 11 or so.)

Mine is the same, cvs'ed today...
-- 
Éric Jacoboni, né il y a 1284343024 secondes.

Re: customizing gnus-posting-styles?

[John H. Palmieri]

This behavior is completely reproducible for me.  I've done the
following, and I still get the message that gnus-posting-styles is
customizable: 

  upgraded to the current cvs (30 minutes ago or so)
  started emacs with 'emacs -q'
  deleted my .gnus file
  removed the directories containing old versions of gnus from the
     load-path
  deleted all of the .elc files in gnus/lisp

Doing all of these has no effect; I still get this message.

Anyone have any idea what's going on?  I'm really puzzled.



Eric Jacoboni <jaco@teaser.fr> writes:

> >>>>> "John" == John H Palmieri <palmieri@math.washington.edu> writes:
> 
> John> I typed 'C-h v gnus-posting-styles' and was told (among other things)
> 
> John>   You can customize this variable.
> 
> Curious. With the same command, i dont get this message but :
> 
> gnus-posting-styles's value is 
> ((".*"
>   (signature ma-signature)
>   (address "jaco@teaser.fr"))
>  ("fr.usenet.logiciels"
>   (address "jaco@titine.fr.eu.org")))
>  
> 
> Documentation:
> *Alist of styles to use when posting.
> 
> Defined in `gnus-msg'.
> 
> John> (This is with Oort Gnus v0.01, taken from cvs on January 11 or so.)
> 
> Mine is the same, cvs'ed today...
> -- 
> Éric Jacoboni, né il y a 1284343024 secondes.
> 

-- 
John H. Palmieri                      
Dept of Mathematics, Box 354350    palmieri@math.washington.edu
University of Washington	   http://www.math.washington.edu/~palmieri/
Seattle, WA 98195-4350

Re: customizing gnus-posting-styles?

[ShengHuo ZHU]

palmieri@math.washington.edu (John H. Palmieri) writes:

> This behavior is completely reproducible for me.  I've done the
> following, and I still get the message that gnus-posting-styles is
> customizable: 

I tested it in Emacs 20.4 and Emacs 20.7. My conclusion is that it is
a bug in Emacs 20.4.

ShengHuo

-- 
(setq gnus-posting-styles '((".*" (signature-file "~/.signature"))))

Re: customizing gnus-posting-styles?

[Raymond Scholz]

ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> schrieb:

> I tested it in Emacs 20.4 and Emacs 20.7. My conclusion is that it is
> a bug in Emacs 20.4.

Nope, my Emacs 20.7 (from Debian Potato) is unwilling to customize
this, too.

Cheers,
  Ray
-- 
Raymond Scholz - rscholz@zonix.de - PGP - http://www.zonix.de/

Re: customizing gnus-posting-styles?

[Per Abrahamsen]

Raymond Scholz <ray-2001@zonix.de> writes:

> ShengHuo ZHU <zsh@cs.rochester.edu> schrieb:
> 
> > I tested it in Emacs 20.4 and Emacs 20.7. My conclusion is that it is
> > a bug in Emacs 20.4.
> 
> Nope, my Emacs 20.7 (from Debian Potato) is unwilling to customize
> this, too.

The bug is that 20.4 somehow marked it as customizable with 'C-h v',
despite the option not being declared with defcustom.

I don't remember why Emacs choose to disable customization of
variables declared with 'defvar', the custom code is supposed to
handle these (it calls them "rogue" options).