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[45.49.59.204]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r3sm8110216pjj.21.2020.06.05.08.42.51 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 05 Jun 2020 08:42:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Newell To: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: Fetching underlying imap mail on M-g Organization: Avi Gobbler Publishing References: <87img6sqtw.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <875zc6lp1v.fsf@dick> <87a71ispa7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2020 05:42:50 -1000 In-Reply-To: <87a71ispa7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Thu, 04 Jun 2020 10:40:16 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Some weird psychological thing, I guess -- I like being able to think > "now I'm going to check my mail". Plus I'm offline quite a bit. I can only speak to my own psychology, but I think "offline quite a bit" defines the use case in a critical way. I've never been able to realistically use a dovecot-like solution which implies local storage of email because I sync environments across something like 8 devices and I'm not willing to replicated gigabytes of email on all of them, nor do I want to maintain different setups on different devices to the extent possible. It would all just get to be too much to manage. On the other hand, I'm offline very seldom, so I'm willing to forego the ability to process email while offline, and that's a crucial distinction. As to psychology: I don't want to check email too often, as it becomes a great distraction and interruption of a flow state. So--- perhaps perversely--- I don't make checking email be too easily done. It's entirely manual and entirely within Gnus, which means relatively slow IMAP access. This means it's just easier to keep writing or editing rather than stop for email. Please, no 'you have mail!' jingles. My mode line does silently show how many new unread emails I have, but that's read from a drop file generated by an external process that only runs once an hour. -- Bob Newell Honolulu, Hawai`i - Via GNU/Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB