From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/41996 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Wes Hardaker Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Question regarding the new multiplaned x-face Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:19:07 -0800 Organization: Network Associates - NAI Labs Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035177304 9068 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 05:15:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 05:15:04 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 2539 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2002 21:20:24 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2002 21:20:24 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16QEVy-0007Si-00; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:19:34 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:19:26 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA18313 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 15:19:14 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 2512 invoked by alias); 14 Jan 2002 21:19:16 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 2507 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2002 21:19:15 -0000 Original-Received: from dns2.hardaker.davis.ca.us (HELO wanderer.hardakers.net) (root@168.150.190.2) by gnus.org with SMTP; 14 Jan 2002 21:19:15 -0000 Original-Received: (from hardaker@localhost) by wanderer.hardakers.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0ELJ7E10347; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:19:07 -0800 Original-To: Gnus List X-Face: #qW^}a%m*T^{A:Cp}$R\"38+d}41-Z}uU8,r%F#c#s:~Nzp0G9](s?,K49KJ]s"*7gvRgA SrAvQc4@/}L7Qc=w{)]ACO\R{LF@S{pXfojjjGg6c;q6{~C}CxC^^&~(F]`1W)%9j/iS/ IM",B1M.?{w8ckLTYD'`|kTr\i\cgY)P4 In-Reply-To: (Steve Youngs's message of "Tue, 15 Jan 2002 06:19:47 +1000") Original-Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Civil Service, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:41996 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:41996 >>>>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 06:19:47 +1000, Steve Youngs said: WH> I'm assuming probably exmh is more popular than gnus. I think WH> zmail might be more popular as well, and it also displays xfaces. SY> OK, but what is it about these that makes them more popular than Gnus? SY> Is it "ease of use"? Yes. SY> Do they have more/better features? No. gnus certainly has just about every function under the sun :-) (at least that's why I use it) exmh is very good and is "prettier". IE, it's graphical and not based on a text based editor so it just looks "pretty" in comparison (even though I'm not a tk-look-n-feel fan). Speed is probably an issue, as gnus is generally slower (elisp just isn't that fast). SY> Is Gnus lacking in some respect? SY> Is it just a marketing issue? Yes, it runs under emacs and the majority of the world doesn't want to run emacs as their operating system (I do, however, so...) SY> Do we care? Nope. -- "Ninjas aren't dangerous. They're more afraid of you than you are of them."