From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/56302 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Wes Hardaker Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Crypto problems again Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 15:09:06 -0800 Organization: Sparta Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1076022579 16754 80.91.224.253 (5 Feb 2004 23:09:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 23:09:39 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M4842@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Feb 06 00:09:32 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Aoscl-0004lF-00 for ; Fri, 06 Feb 2004 00:09:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AoscY-0000Ch-00; Thu, 05 Feb 2004 17:09:18 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AoscQ-0000CZ-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 05 Feb 2004 17:09:10 -0600 Original-Received: from wes.hardakers.net (adsl-64-165-72-146.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net [64.165.72.146]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFA13A0204 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 17:09:09 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by wes.hardakers.net (Postfix, from userid 274) id 4D48611D85E; Thu, 5 Feb 2004 15:09:06 -0800 (PST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Face: 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 oiVhxAjSHxQwhiYJEdCR6tMN1/uckirDRNbsgAAAAASUVORK5CYII= In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Thu, 05 Feb 2004 23:36:36 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) XEmacs/21.5 (celeriac, linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56302 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56302 >>>>> On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 23:36:36 +0100, Simon Josefsson said: Simon> That is, giving explicit encryption related examples. Or does the Simon> export ban cover writing too? Well, you'd have to ask RMS again. He's the one being picky. In the past, written non-machine readable code was how pgp used to be exported. It was printed on paper, sent out of the country, and the OCRed as best as possible back in. But the manual will be sent electronically in this case, and thus cut-n-paste is possible and I'm not sure that'd fly with RMS since it sounds like he's using old legal definitions and that would probably be prohibited. -- "In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find." -- Terry Pratchett