From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/55287 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Wes Hardaker Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: spam/ham autolearn (spamassassin) markings in summary Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:04:52 -0800 Organization: Sparta Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <4nptemulhi.fsf@collins.bwh.harvard.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1071857234 29078 80.91.224.253 (19 Dec 2003 18:07:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:07:14 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3827@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Dec 19 19:07:08 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AXP1n-0004Sn-00 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:07:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AXP0E-0008DQ-00; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:05:30 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AXP06-0008DI-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:05:22 -0600 Original-Received: from wanderer.hardakers.net (adsl-66-127-127-227.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net [66.127.127.227]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D323A004F for ; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:05:21 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by wanderer.hardakers.net (Postfix, from userid 274) id 451B256849; Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:04:55 -0800 (PST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEXotKX87e8eDA4GAQbQgmlzNycHAwizYkruzul2AAACaUlEQVR4nFXUTW/jIBAGYFI56jWutuq1S9b2dddW6dWtQFxbq4jzwq73Glmg+fv7DiT9QJGS+GEGhiER67TWEQ5CtOeh21ZcIIbmOPq5QvMZYlyV6u+/gsJLTSrGIL/CxEPxQuPAcP0JYlQsq3x5B3UJmUaEyB6yZ+CQ+pwXCzKsbXtbIhg4KtZypPz+AVGtlxH69c87qAqRY6Rc5QUmZMGeAj+TfVjjUwE1lflKys5JGXpM+V0hltqCJ0qL7Plkft4wRM6lxi5p3Wyy7O7fB8TgtdZivxy5rvAB6wSYhbA9vn+GOCaOEGJRPO2mHgk+q1Chyf0Up3AG0NjhOXI19ogEFziq6M+ZtN3kUZ13NW4qUCprC3CW668C06M5jihON1Vsjq8F1CPJB8LINNeQfscwxUEvAwM5Xghvsq2pBr3hnKhbDIrMS3cBRDx70uS9JW2dy667gM0AbZFFmyvn3GOBGB8wG9kppaSNz357LaCmUdtSny5LU9qeCrglvJmyH20TwkjnXQE0usscIWayCWZJ7OpZ4QbUVGRnhuTub3cMYRk99oSplDIfibzfn0FyXyk7z8XThuvC0P/dGCwee7O8aZJBmh0vPixy0NrYhDaR02aR3W0BbyT6h23OB5Hzybj+DOm5w6XCOZG13p5Oh/bursJVh9S+bBiFnPCDuntpcTH080AO+7GlW1i3bRphBM04dZ2dI6yMLjmGFqnIok/cB1YU8sJAACTeuHOd5+lumQHfDM6KyLqEm4aWkkcc1m4PqBewZxBZOg44lT+aJiexDteewb In-Reply-To: <4nptemulhi.fsf@collins.bwh.harvard.edu> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:41:29 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) XEmacs/21.5 (brussels sprouts, linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55287 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55287 >>>>> On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:41:29 -0500, Ted Zlatanov said: Ted> Cool. I'll probably do something similar for the next release of Ted> Gnus, as a real formatting specifier instead of a user format Ted> function. It will probably be two or three letter, one to Ted> indicate the status and the rest to indicate the backend(s) used Ted> to detect that it is spam/ham. I know there is already a format spec that marks spam with $ I think, right? Ted> X-Spam-Status is not a reliably way to detect spamicity, Ted> unfortunately. Blacklists or blackholes, for instance, don't Ted> leave a trace inside the message. It's better to use the Ted> gnus-registry tracking, which will automatically note when a Ted> message is tagged as spam or ham, by spam/ham processing or Ted> incoming/autodetection mail spam-splitting. See the latest Ted> spam.el, I track the spam/ham detection history of a message when Ted> I do autodetection in spam-find-spam and spam-split for instance. I apply spamassassin during processing of incoming mail. I also don't split inside gnus, and split directly into imap folders via procmail (that way when I occasionally have to use other mail readers, I don't have 3000 messages in my inbox because only gnus knows how to split it). In short, the example is a bit tailored to my environment (which is why I said it was an "example" and didn't submit a patch ;-) -- "In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find." -- Terry Pratchett