From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/32624 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Wes Hardaker Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Display X-Face and save space Date: 28 Sep 2000 09:42:25 -0700 Organization: U.C.Davis, Information Technology - D.C.A.S. Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <200009181427.PAA02760@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <200009211954.UAA08323@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <200009261349.OAA17106@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035168878 20864 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:54:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:54:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Wes Hardaker , ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from fisher.math.uh.edu (fisher.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.35]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9E4D051E for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by fisher.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAC01316; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:43:00 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:42:22 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23939 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:42:10 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from wanderer.hardaker.davis.ca.us (dcas100.ucdavis.edu [169.237.210.100]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EE9D051E for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:42:34 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from hardaker@localhost) by wanderer.hardaker.davis.ca.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01231; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:42:25 -0700 Original-To: Dave Love X-URL: http://dcas.ucdavis.edu/~hardaker X-Microsoft: Sucks X-Face: #qW^}a%m*T^{A:Cp}$R\"38+d}41-Z}uU8,r%F#c#s:~Nzp0G9](s?,K49KJ]s"*7gvRgA SrAvQc4@/}L7Qc=w{)]ACO\R{LF@S{pXfojjjGg6c;q6{~C}CxC^^&~(F]`1W)%9j/iS/ IM",B1M.?{w8ckLTYD'`|kTr\i\cgY)P4 In-Reply-To: Dave Love's message of "Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:49:03 +0100" Original-Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.2 (Shinjuku) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:32624 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:32624 >>>>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:49:03 +0100, Dave Love said: WH> Why they need to "own" the copyright makes no sense to me. Dave> I'm not sure making sense is relevant in law. Good point. Dave> The longstanding legal advice -- apparently not just to the FSF Dave> -- is that for defence in court against violations of the Dave> licence there should be a single copyright holder, or perhaps Dave> only a few. I'm not sure of the exact position; maybe all Dave> holders of copyright in a combined work have to be involved. In Dave> exceptional circumstances there is a specific licence to the FSF Dave> instead of assignment. ... WH> Filling out the form once wouldn't prevent me from writing more WH> code in the future to the same piece and that code wouldn't be WH> owned by them (unless they explicitly cover future modifications WH> in their form). Dave> That's what it normally says. Yes, but what if I don't trust the FSF to always keep the copyright in a form that I like it (GPLed). If they own the copyright, they have the right to stop distributing future changes made to it under the GPL (the copyright owner is the *only* person that can do this. The GPL only protects *other* people from releasing it under a different arrangement). -- "Ninjas aren't dangerous. They're more afraid of you than you are of them."