From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44712 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Wes Hardaker Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Copyright/license issues (was: [COMMIT] sign & encrypt changes) Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 07:05:45 -0700 Organization: Network Associates - NAI Labs Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87adrjse42.fsf@alum.wpi.edu> <87wuunyrl4.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87u1pqbsl3.fsf@alum.wpi.edu> <87bsby4oy8.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87lmb2336u.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87662631te.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87wuum1lwl.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87g019m45c.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020694017 18874 127.0.0.1 (6 May 2002 14:06:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Dmitry Bely , ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 174j8j-0004uJ-00 for ; Mon, 06 May 2002 16:06:57 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 174j86-000577-00; Mon, 06 May 2002 09:06:18 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 06 May 2002 09:06:33 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA02674 for ; Mon, 6 May 2002 09:06:21 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 14737 invoked by alias); 6 May 2002 14:06:01 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 14729 invoked from network); 6 May 2002 14:06:00 -0000 Original-Received: from adsl-66-127-127-227.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net (HELO wanderer.hardakers.net) (@66.127.127.227) by gnus.org with SMTP; 6 May 2002 14:06:00 -0000 Original-Received: (from hardaker@localhost) by wanderer.hardakers.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g46E5j410502; Mon, 6 May 2002 07:05:45 -0700 Original-To: Per Abrahamsen X-Face: #qW^}a%m*T^{A:Cp}$R\"38+d}41-Z}uU8,r%F#c#s:~Nzp0G9](s?,K49KJ]s"*7gvRgA SrAvQc4@/}L7Qc=w{)]ACO\R{LF@S{pXfojjjGg6c;q6{~C}CxC^^&~(F]`1W)%9j/iS/ IM",B1M.?{w8ckLTYD'`|kTr\i\cgY)P4 In-Reply-To: (Per Abrahamsen's message of "Sat, 04 May 2002 16:27:24 +0200") Original-Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) XEmacs/21.5 (bamboo, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44712 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44712 >>>>> On Sat, 04 May 2002 16:27:24 +0200, Per Abrahamsen said: Per> I think _most_ people (not FW) who complain actually _can_ do Per> assignments, it is merely an inconvenience. Especially since the FSF Per> contracts are negotiable (contracts tend to be). I don't see it as they can't personally, but rather the company they work for might be more than willing to say "sure, go ahead and submit your code to the OSS project under the GPL". The instant you ask them to sign something, however, they have to consult their legal team and then invariably it'll end up getting passed to someone who's heard bad things about the GPL and the 7 line patch will no longer be exportable from that source. Or, university employees have to go through a slew of paperwork to release stuff. 9/10 times I'd be the direct boss would just say to "do it" and not to go through the business and contracts office to do the right thing for a 7 line patch. I think the FSF's goals are admirable and their cause is a good one, however they're harming productivity. -- "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it." -- Terry Pratchett