From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/35749 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Wes Hardaker Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Quimby Upgrade Date: 11 Apr 2001 07:58:18 -0700 Organization: Network Associates - NAI Labs Message-ID: References: <20010410162812.7343.qmail@nightshade.la.mastaler.com> <87g0fg56fb.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> <20010411052354.D46053@kens.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035171440 4716 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:37:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 27488 invoked by alias); 11 Apr 2001 14:59:54 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 27480 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2001 14:58:54 -0000 Original-Received: from dns1.hardaker.davis.ca.us (HELO wanderer.hardakers.net) (@168.150.190.1) by gnus.org with SMTP; 11 Apr 2001 14:58:54 -0000 Original-Received: (from hardaker@localhost) by wanderer.hardakers.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA01505; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 07:58:18 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: wanderer.hardakers.net: hardaker set sender to wes@hardakers.net using -f Original-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-URL: http://dcas.ucdavis.edu/~hardaker X-Face: #qW^}a%m*T^{A:Cp}$R\"38+d}41-Z}uU8,r%F#c#s:~Nzp0G9](s?,K49KJ]s"*7gvRgA SrAvQc4@/}L7Qc=w{)]ACO\R{LF@S{pXfojjjGg6c;q6{~C}CxC^^&~(F]`1W)%9j/iS/ IM",B1M.?{w8ckLTYD'`|kTr\i\cgY)P4 In-Reply-To: <20010411052354.D46053@kens.com> ("Robin S. Socha"'s message of "Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:23:54 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) XEmacs/21.2 (Terspichore) Original-Lines: 18 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35749 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:35749 >>>>> On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:23:54 -0400, "Robin S. Socha" said: Robin> Who cares? AFS and Coda are available. NFS should be shot, along with Robin> sendmail and BIND. Here here! Though NFSv4 is supposed to be a decent replacement. Robin> At least OpenBSD ships with BIND 4. Hope you don't need protocol security in your bind server (as opposed to security in the code, sigh). Actually, what should be shot in the BSD world is their method of initialization. The many many applications being initialized from a single (or a few) script(s) should be shot as well. -- "Ninjas aren't dangerous. They're more afraid of you than you are of them."