From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/15661 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mats Lofdahl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Inserting attribution at a better point Date: 16 Jul 1998 11:37:01 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.95) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035154653 23336 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:57:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (gwyn.tux.org [207.96.122.8]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA22312 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:42:30 -0700 Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08151 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 04:39:14 -0400 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAS00854; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 03:12:11 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 16 Jul 1998 03:37:30 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA23071 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 03:37:18 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mx.su.se (mx.su.se [130.237.162.24]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27701 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 04:37:19 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from royac6.astro.su.se (royac6.astro.su.se [130.237.166.76]) by mx.su.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01585; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:36:47 +0200 Original-Received: by royac6.astro.su.se (5.65v4.0/1.1.19.2/04Jun98-0539PM) id AA00744; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:37:02 +0200 Original-To: Kai Grossjohann X-Attribution: Mats In-Reply-To: Kai Grossjohann's message of "16 Jul 1998 10:02:27 +0200" Original-Lines: 39 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by altair.xemacs.org id BAA22312 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:15661 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:15661 Kai Grossjohann writes: > Mats Lofdahl writes: > > > But why destroy the citations for everybody? Wouldn't it be > > better to post with the multiple level standard citation style and > > have gnus optionally _present_ the stuff the way you want it on > > your screen? And move the attributions around any way you want. > > Surely it would be as easy to write a article "washing" routine > > that did this? > > Well, it can't happen automatically. Why? Isn't all the necessary information present if you use the multiple level citation style? > And I did say `WIBNI if Gnus provided support for this, too?'. This > does not imply to remove support for the now standard citation > style! My point is that if you follow up to a message with multiple level citations and change them in the way you suggest, then that information is destroyed. So whomever wants to reply to _your_ message is forced to keep your citation style. _I_ don't think that is nice. > Just suppose some people prefer to cite similar to the way Erik > Naggum does, my suggestion was to have some support for this in > Gnus. If these people prefer that kind of citations, then why not make the destruction local to their own screen? -- Mats Löfdahl "Good luck. If you turn out to be a genius after all, remember that I never once for a moment believed in you." -- Orson Scott Card (1996)