From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44609 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Eichwalder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Annoying new features in newer Oorts Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 18:32:21 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <3229147191814452@oakhurst.yi.org> <6usn5d4jia.fsf@zork.zork.net> <3229150801659975@oakhurst.yi.org> <3229343185064781@oakhurst.yi.org> <6u8z72czxn.fsf@zork.zork.net> Reply-To: Karl Eichwalder NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020362195 2293 127.0.0.1 (2 May 2002 17:56:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 17:56:35 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 173Kol-0000as-00 for ; Thu, 02 May 2002 19:56:35 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 173KnX-0005p6-00; Thu, 02 May 2002 12:55:19 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 02 May 2002 12:55:33 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA16834 for ; Thu, 2 May 2002 12:55:22 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 5003 invoked by alias); 2 May 2002 17:55:02 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 4998 invoked from network); 2 May 2002 17:55:02 -0000 Original-Received: from dns.franken.de (HELO elvis.franken.de) (mail@193.175.24.33) by gnus.org with SMTP; 2 May 2002 17:55:02 -0000 Original-Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.22 #1) id 173Kmz-0004Tq-00 for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 02 May 2002 19:54:45 +0200 Original-Received: by tux.gnu.franken.de (Postfix, from userid 270) id C3625A43F2; Thu, 2 May 2002 18:32:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: 24th Century Technology In-Reply-To: <6u8z72czxn.fsf@zork.zork.net> (Sean Neakums's message of "Thu, 02 May 2002 16:49:40 +0100") Original-Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.2.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44609 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44609 Sean Neakums writes: > Then change the binding as suggested in two separate posts, and get on > with your life. Note, it isn't nice to steal default keys. Emacs, for good reason, is very conservative. Some Gnus hackers claimed C-a must mimick current shell-mode behavior--I opposed because shell-mode is completely different: nobody will remove the prompt in shell-mode, but it happens quite often that people have to remove a complete header line. Instead of stealing C-a you should have introduced a previously _unused_ binding for the new behavior. -- ke@suse.de (work) / keichwa@gmx.net (home): | http://www.suse.de/~ke/ | ,__o Free Translation Project: | _-\_<, http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/ | (*)/'(*)