From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/37663 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Eichwalder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Wrong default indents in message.el Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 06:56:31 +0200 Sender: ke@gnu.franken.de Message-ID: References: <2n3d71t8ue.fsf@piglet.jia.vnet> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035173036 15006 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:03:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 1906 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2001 04:57:35 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO myway.myway.de) (212.204.66.1) by gnus.org with SMTP; 10 Aug 2001 04:57:35 -0000 Original-Received: from tux.gnu.franken.de (postfix@dialin4144.nefkom.net [212.114.164.144]) by myway.myway.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA13433; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 06:57:32 +0200 Original-Received: by tux.gnu.franken.de (Postfix, from userid 270) id 32CFFA4D8C; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 06:56:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) In-Reply-To: (Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "Thu, 09 Aug 2001 23:55:05 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.0.104 Original-Lines: 32 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:37663 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:37663 Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: > I think that relative indentation is a Good Thing(tm) for text-like > modes. I disagree. > If you want to advance to the next tab stop, you can always do > M-i. Why forcing a user to use a non standard keybinding if he wants to have a standard effect. "relative indentation" hurts the rule of "less surprise". I never saw a user reports saying "indentations sucks" when writing mails with message.el. A working piece of software was changed for no good (just to please the developers). This is a Bad Thing(tm). And a bug was introduced; cf. the indentation style of the previous paragraph. > But of course, the meaning of TAB should be customizable in some way. > message-x provides a user option for > this... I vote to change it back as it ever was. The TAB/message-x thingie doesn't seem to be documented what's a bad thing, too. --=20 ke@suse.de (work) / keichwa@gmx.net (home): | http://www.suse.de/~ke/ | ,__o Free Translation Project: | _-\_<, http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/ | (*)/'(*)