From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/50668 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Eichwalder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: charset=macintosh Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 21:40:52 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1047070063 7129 80.91.224.249 (7 Mar 2003 20:47:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Fri Mar 07 21:47:40 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18rOgf-0001dT-00 for ; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 21:43:25 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18rOgh-0007Qo-00; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 14:43:28 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 07 Mar 2003 14:44:27 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA10252 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:44:16 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 1582 invoked by alias); 7 Mar 2003 20:43:12 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 1576 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 20:43:12 -0000 Original-Received: from elvis.franken.de (?vMSJ2RoyyaVR2ncy/wiJcHCT7d18ARVI?@193.175.24.41) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 20:43:12 -0000 Original-Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.36 #1) id 18rOgQ-0002P9-00; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 21:43:10 +0100 Original-Received: by tux.gnu.franken.de (Postfix, from userid 270) id 4C532A43E4; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:40:52 +0100 (CET) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Jesper Harder's message of "Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:45:13 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090016 (Oort Gnus v0.16) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50668 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50668 Jesper Harder writes: > And rightly so. RFC 2046 (section 4.1.2) says that you should use =C2=BB= the > "lowest common denominator" character set possible.=C2=AB=20 When I know, I can post UTF-8 I always do stupid things like adding some =E2=99=A5's or a =E2=82=AC and things like that=E2=80=A6 Thus, wuickl= iy the lowest common deniminator is UTF-8 =E2=8C=A3 or =E2=8C=A2 > Clearly, UTF-8 doesn't comply with this. This depends =E2=80=A1=E2=80=A1=E2=80=A1 =E2=80=94 otherwise you are comple= tely right ;-) >> I also observed that even more users don't set the Mime headers at >> all! And Gnus assumes UTF-8 for those postings > > That sounds like a bug. How can I reproduce it? Start Emacs in a UTF-8 locale: LANG=3Den_US.UTF-8 emacs and page thru some German newsgroup like de.rec.buecher (books) or de.rec.fahrrad (bikes). Every 10th or 20th article will feature those nice \321, \345, \432 decorations :) --=20 ke@suse.de (work) / keichwa@gmx.net (home): | http://www.gnu.franken.de/ke/ | ,__o Free Translation Project: | _-\_<, http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/contrib/po/HTML/ | (*)/'(*)