From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/34250 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Eichwalder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Can't mark negative article numbers Date: 14 Jan 2001 07:31:49 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035170212 29465 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:16:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAFBD049D for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 02:55:26 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAC06141; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:55:19 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:54:42 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA00688 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:54:32 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from myway.myway.de (unknown [212.204.66.1]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50BCD049D for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 02:54:57 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from tux.gnu.franken.de (postfix@dialin4114.nefkom.de [212.114.164.114]) by myway.myway.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04417 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 08:54:55 +0100 Original-Received: by tux.gnu.franken.de (Postfix, from userid 270) id 37A9BDB8FC; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 07:31:49 +0100 (CET) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Original-Lines: 57 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:34250 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:34250 Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: > You could use `A T' to fetch the whole thread. That fetches all old > headers, not just a single one. Why do I always forget about the `A ' keys combinations? Thanks for the reminder! Karl Kleinpaste writes: > Karl Eichwalder writes: > > It isn't possible to mark/tick an article fetched with > > `gnus-summary-refer-parent-article'. > Yes. This is a fairly fundamental issue. You see, when you chase to > a parent article, it may or may not have come from within the same > group as the group you're currently reading. If you're reading > gnu.emacs.gnus and chase to an article's parent, you may be reading an > article posted (only) to news.software.readers. What if you don't > read n.s.r? What does it mean to mark an article to which you don't > even have access in the normal case? Okay, I see the point. To answer your question: If the article isn't part of the group gnus might try to copy the article (mail groups) and/or put it into the cache. > Generally, if Gnus can figure out where in the current group a > chased-to article belongs, it will not number it negatively, but will > show it with its normal within-the-group numbering. No, I doesn't work for me at all. To put the question different: Why does my Gnus always number id-fetched articles negatively? Obviously, it can't figure out that the fetched article (`^') belongs to the current group. > It is only articles from outside the current group that get such > treatment. Unfortunately, not ;) In addition, I like to propose to change the message to make it sound more userfriendly. At the moment it is nothing more than a debugging message. Please, add something like this: Can't mark negative article numbers; article doesn't belong to current group. Since forthcoming Emacs will be able to deal nicely with multiline minibuffer messages it shuold be allowed to output more verbose error or warning messages. Thanks for all your help! --=20 work : ke@suse.de | ,__o : http://www.suse.de/~ke/ | _-\_<, home : keichwa@gmx.net | (*)/'(*)