From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/28347 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl EICHWALDER Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: de .* and gnus-group-posting-charset-alist Date: 20 Dec 1999 19:20:56 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87ogbwjtpw.fsf@deneb.cygnus.argh.org> <87so15xmug.fsf@deneb.cygnus.argh.org> Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD32FD051E for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:49:40 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAB12458; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:45:53 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:45:15 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28503 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:45:03 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from rachael.franken.de (rachael.franken.de [193.175.24.38]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B14D051E for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:44:28 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: by rachael.franken.de via sendmail with stdio id for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:43:52 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #4 built DST-Sep-8) Original-Received: from chico.franken.de(193.175.24.33) via SMTP by rachael.franken.de, id smtpdAAAa09846; Mon Dec 20 20:43:30 1999 Original-Received: by chico.franken.de with UUCP for abraham@dina.kvl.dk id m1208iQ-005CI9C; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:43:30 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: by tux.gnu.franken.de (Postfix, from userid 270) id 33021DC244; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:20:56 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Per Abrahamsen In-Reply-To: Per Abrahamsen's message of "20 Dec 1999 12:24:51 +0100" Original-Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.5 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28347 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:28347 Per Abrahamsen writes: | The current (5.8.2) solution, to make the behaviour depend on | hierarchy, is close to perfect. Rare occurences such as | cross-hierachy crossposting should not affect this decision. Thinking about it again, I've to admit that you are right -- sorry for making noise ;) | Maybe the default is wrong for de.*, but that should not mean that | the new German preferences should be forced into all other | hierarchies. Yes, difficult question -- I don't know what we want. My wish is to follow the standard as close as possible (= no 8bit header lines). At least, we've to make sure that courtesy copies are properly encoded. There are quite a lot "firewall" configurations out there which reject mails with 8bit subject lines. | Of course, mailing list conventions are even more subject to the | owners wishes than local hierarchies. The owner usually prefer a | solution that works best for the users over a solution that follows | the words of some arbitrary standard. Which is how it should be. Nice theory ;) Once I complained other participants signaled that they didn't like 8bit postings. It's a strange, strange world. -- work : ke@suse.de | : http://www.suse.de/~ke/ | ------ ,__o personal: ke@gnu.franken.de | ------ _-\_<, : http://www.franken.de/users/gnu/ke/ | ------ (*)/'(*)