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* expiry with normal deletion marks
@ 2009-10-21 23:29 Wes Hardaker
  2009-10-21 23:34 ` Greg Troxel
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Wes Hardaker @ 2009-10-21 23:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ding


So...  I'm slowly moving more and more toward the need for better
integration with other email readers.  In particular mobile devices.

I consider "gnus" to be the master and everything else as "temporary"
because emacs is too far away.  I use expiry very very heavily, both
total and manual depending on the group.

What I want (need) is the ability to be able to mark articles as deleted
in other places and gnus do the same and then have gnus do its expiary
process on the deleted articles rather than use a separate expiary
mark.  Is there a way to change what gnus uses for the expiary mark?
Did I miss it somehow?

I realize there is a danger of something else expunging a box, but I
want to handle that configuration elsewhere.  Right now, I have to:

1) delete elsewhere and then mark as expired later in gnus
2) get flooded with expired mail in other interfaces that really
   shouldn't be shown because they're functionally already marked as
   deleted by gnus.

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* Re: expiry with normal deletion marks
  2009-10-21 23:29 expiry with normal deletion marks Wes Hardaker
@ 2009-10-21 23:34 ` Greg Troxel
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Greg Troxel @ 2009-10-21 23:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wes Hardaker; +Cc: ding

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Wes Hardaker <wes@hardakers.net> writes:

> So...  I'm slowly moving more and more toward the need for better
> integration with other email readers.  In particular mobile devices.
>
> I consider "gnus" to be the master and everything else as "temporary"
> because emacs is too far away.  I use expiry very very heavily, both
> total and manual depending on the group.
>
> What I want (need) is the ability to be able to mark articles as deleted
> in other places and gnus do the same and then have gnus do its expiary
> process on the deleted articles rather than use a separate expiary
> mark.  Is there a way to change what gnus uses for the expiary mark?
> Did I miss it somehow?
>
> I realize there is a danger of something else expunging a box, but I
> want to handle that configuration elsewhere.  Right now, I have to:
>
> 1) delete elsewhere and then mark as expired later in gnus
> 2) get flooded with expired mail in other interfaces that really
>    shouldn't be shown because they're functionally already marked as
>    deleted by gnus.

I use IMAP.  Then, I have 'd' bound to

(defun gdt-gnus-move-to-trash ()
  (interactive)
  (gnus-summary-move-article nil gdt-trash-newsgroup))

and actually delete messages.  the trash group has total-expire.

I use auto-expire on mailing list groups, but I don't read those with
other clients.  This is based around making it usable to use the iphone
imap client with the same server as gnus.

If I wanted to deal with other groups, I'd think about making gnus
expire based on read marks instead of expirable.

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