From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87197 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Greg Troxel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: IMAP changes timestamp when moving an article to another group Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2016 19:49:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1470095451 8650 195.159.176.226 (1 Aug 2016 23:50:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 23:50:51 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.5 (berkeley-unix) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Erik Colson Original-X-From: ding-owner+M35417@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Aug 02 01:50:47 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bUMys-0001wt-M2 for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 01:50:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bUMy8-0001NG-Vo; Mon, 01 Aug 2016 18:50:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bUMy6-0001Mj-Dz for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 01 Aug 2016 18:49:58 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bUMy4-000633-SC for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 01 Aug 2016 18:49:58 -0500 Original-Received: from linuxpal.mit.edu ([18.62.1.14]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1bUMy3-00073E-2m for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 01:49:55 +0200 Original-Received: by linuxpal.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 9545) id 1D6B016078; Mon, 1 Aug 2016 19:49:51 -0400 (EDT) OpenPGP: id=098ED60E X-Hashcash: 1:20:160801:ding@gnus.org::7z4+qaENM5Dyazq6:00003kex X-Hashcash: 1:20:160801:eco@ecocode.net::qdjCdbpNzz/7Vd4Q:002sU7 In-Reply-To: (Erik Colson's message of "Mon, 01 Aug 2016 23:29:05 +0200") List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87197 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Erik Colson writes: > When I use gnus-summary-move-article [Bm] to move an article into > another group on a dovecot imap server, the timestamp in other clients > gets changed to actual date/time. The header of the article still > represents the correct timestamp though (and so does gnus). But the > timestamp is faulty when accessing the group through Mail.app on my Mac. I have noticed this as well, but I was never clear on whether the received date was wrong or if it was just that clients other than gnus were sorting on the wrong date. This seems to be the IMAP received tiemstamp: http://serverfault.com/questions/588618/maintain-email-timestamp-when-transferring-between-email-servers-using-an-email http://www.dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2008-July/032165.html > Is this dovecot related ? or can I configure gnus somehow to not change > the timestamp ? For info, when moving mail between groups from within > Mail.app everything is handled correctly (also in gnus). As I understand it from the dovecot mail message above, gnus should probably use APPEND when moving and set the date to match the source message. Another view is that the current behavior is right because the message's received date is the time it was copied into the account. But, I think preserving the received date on copy is probably more useful overall. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlef4BsACgkQH9p66AmO1g4sgwCeMX+O4RcqpJjyO12TJ4ft8XET aJYAn2vYc12vYmd9WUb1XOxOWQ4fV7QC =MmTD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--