From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/86820 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Greg Troxel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus cleanup Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 19:50:45 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87h9hied21.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455065477 23554 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2016 00:51:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 00:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 10 01:51:12 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aTIzw-0001E9-LQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:51:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34109 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTIzv-0006vc-QD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 19:51:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53436) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTIzf-0006vB-Lt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 19:50:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTIzb-0001Yl-I2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 19:50:55 -0500 Original-Received: from linuxpal.mit.edu ([18.62.1.14]:65110) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTIzb-0001Y4-E8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 19:50:51 -0500 Original-Received: by linuxpal.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 9545) id 7032316078; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:50:49 -0500 (EST) OpenPGP: id=098ED60E X-Hashcash: 1:20:160210:ding@gnus.org::gTpAk/0kIhGbnAnj:00002wyu X-Hashcash: 1:20:160210:emacs-devel@gnu.org::RQDyYq2VovuRwBlR:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000015Kl X-Hashcash: 1:20:160210:larsi@gnus.org::pg6YC9IazHFPPDig:00063yU In-Reply-To: <87h9hied21.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 09 Feb 2016 15:13:26 +1100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.3 (berkeley-unix) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 18.62.1.14 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199654 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:86820 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > In Emacs, we usually mark functions as obsolete for a few years before > removing them, but I kinda feel like it's rather unlikely that there > will be any other usages of gnus-window-inside-pixel-edges after I clean > up the Gnus sources. I'm someone who doesn't want to run emacs-current (because I want a release), and I have some interest in running -current gnus, although less so these days given how stable it is. From my point of view, what would be useful is retaining compat functions for the latest emacs 24 formal release, until emacs 25 is released. I gather you don't want to do that, but I think it would open up the ability to use current gnus to a much wider audience for very little trouble, and that would help with testing. But, from where I sit, removing the compat functions from the gnus sources within emacs-current doesn't hurt at all, once you are taking out the calls to those functions. It may be that there is almost nothing needed by gnus in emacs-25 not available in emacs-24, or that there is some generic compat library to provide the missing functions, and it will be easy enough to run emacs 24 with -current gnus. I'll refrain from commenting on this in the future.... Sent from my Emacs 24.3.1 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAla6iWUACgkQH9p66AmO1g7M6QCfTjQxPElx0la7H3I6+i+avs/0 YGAAnjnfKYWGoXQM99Ft2PH7VomeRcb3 =pSNw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--