From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68599 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Greg Troxel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: auto auto-expirable Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 08:34:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <30336.1243827407@rawbw.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1244205777 14394 80.91.229.12 (5 Jun 2009 12:42:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 12:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Katsumi Yamaoka Original-X-From: ding-owner+M17030@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Jun 05 14:42:54 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MCYl3-0008WM-M7 for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:42:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MCYk3-0003Eg-HY; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:41:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MCYk1-0003EK-HK for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:41:49 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MCYjy-0001oB-8Q for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:41:49 -0500 Original-Received: from linuxpal.mit.edu ([18.62.1.14]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1MCYkS-0005as-00 for ; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:42:16 +0200 Original-Received: by linuxpal.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 9545) id 30E8A1738D; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 08:41:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Hashcash: 1:20:090605:yamaoka@jpl.org::fIZsMdcmWA8mHEjY:000pZw X-Hashcash: 1:20:090605:ding@gnus.org::fIZsMdcmWA8mHEjY:00004/t+ In-Reply-To: (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:20:00 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68599 Archived-At: --=-=-= My own usage falls more in line with the intent of the patch than opposing it. I have not studied the details and hope that an ab initio perspective is useful. Basically, I have groups with 3 different settings: no auto-expire (INBOX, etc. for real mail - I manually delete) auto-expire (mailing lists, and I tick things I want to keep) total-expire (spam, other low-value stuff like daily output mail) Sometimes mail gets miscategorized by procmail, either because of spam filtering errors (both ways), header regexp hairiness, or because I was in To: in list mail. What I do is "B m ". When mailing-list mail ends up in my INBOX or spam (I filter at 1 SA point, so people using junky MUAs from yahoo end up there), I generally have glanced at it enough to know I don't care and want it to be marked expirable in the mailinglist group. If I wanted to keep it I'd tick it right there. I do want to put it in the mailinglist group because I want the next day's bayesian training run to pick it up as ham; it might have just been learned as spam. If I move a message from a mailinglist group to another group, I'd like the E flag to be set as if the message had been there in the first place and then read. I realize other people might not like this. So I think what's needed is a global variable expirable-per-destination that if t means that the expirable mark on a message which is moved to a destination is set according to what it would have been if the message had been in the destination in the first place the message has been read or not read there, based on whether it was read or not read in the group it was in before. Operationally, I think this just means. if expirable-per-destination messages moved into auto-expire groups set expire-flag if read-flag messages moved into other groups clear expire-flag else status quo People that don't like this can just not set expirable-per-destination. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (NetBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkopEOAACgkQH9p66AmO1g5aVQCeIg/hJ54nJWcsDrtoqCs1fdr8 vioAn2hhaLzZ/NGH8S7EIUGIHiRYXc3e =tAu0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--