From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/27960 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Brian May Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Brian May's `Re: Bugs in PGnus' article jams Gnus Date: 09 Dec 1999 11:46:52 +1100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <877liqx43y.fsf@senstation.vvf.fi> <2n66ya1xv3.fsf@tiger.jia.vnet> <2npuwiwsoe.fsf@tiger.jia.vnet> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035164892 27327 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:48:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15585 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 19:47:58 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAB23199; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:47:48 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 08 Dec 1999 18:47:30 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13722 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:47:20 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from silas-2.cc.monash.edu.au (bam@silas-2.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.7]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15576 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 19:46:55 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from bam@localhost) by silas-2.cc.monash.edu.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA13651; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:46:52 +1100 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: silas-2.cc.monash.edu.au: bam set sender to bmay@csse.monash.edu.au using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Home-Page: http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~bmay/ In-Reply-To: Shenghuo ZHU's message of "Tue, 07 Dec 1999 12:45:53 -0500" Original-Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:27960 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:27960 >>>>> "ZSH" == Shenghuo ZHU writes: ZSH> In XEmacs (From the header of the message, I know Brian May use it), ZSH> the message contains `\207', which is a `control-1' characters and ZSH> some other `latin-iso8859-1' characters, therefore Gnus used multiply ZSH> charsets to encode it. Actually, Gnus can handle it as `iso8859-1'. So ZSH> I fixed it in latest CVS. ZSH> In Emacs `\207' is an `ascii' characters, so such a message will not ZSH> happen in Emacs. I remain skeptical that this has fixed the problem. What happens if I send mail, with another control character, that really is non-ASCII? Why does Gnus have to split the message when it sees a 'bad' character? Why can't it encode the entire message, in the same way? Also, another question: when I saw the my message (from the URL previously given), Gnus used 8 bit encoding. I thought 8 bit encoding meant no encoding at all, and was considered a bad idea for non-ASCII characters? Where am I wrong? -- Brian May