From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/27219 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Brian May Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Bugs in PGnus Date: 25 Nov 1999 10:07:40 +1100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035164284 23451 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:38:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26358 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:10:39 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAB20330; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:10:16 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:08:27 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18327 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:08:16 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from silas-1.cc.monash.edu.au (bam@silas-1.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.91]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26333 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:07:46 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from bam@localhost) by silas-1.cc.monash.edu.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA11522; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:07:42 +1100 (EST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Home-Page: http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~bmay/ Original-Lines: 48 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070098 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.98) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Original-Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:27219 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:27219 >>>>> "Kai" == Kai Großjohann writes: Kai> Have you tried setting nntp-record-commands to t, then Kai> compare traces of the communication between Gnus and the NNTP Kai> server at uni and at home? Here is what I get when I try to fetch an article (by message-id) at Monash Uni: 19991125T093917.704 newsserver.cc.monash.edu.au HEAD <38385A79.8410721@mcn.net> 19991125T093917.902 newsserver.cc.monash.edu.au ARTICLE <38385A79.8410721@mcn.net> This is what happens when PGnus knows the message number: 19991125T093927.248 newsserver.cc.monash.edu.au ARTICLE 34480 At home, the first two commands would look more like (edited to look like the expected form): 19991125T093917.704 newsserver.cc.monash.edu.au HEAD <38385A79.8410721@mcn.net> 19991125T093917.902 newsserver.cc.monash.edu.au ARTICLE 34479 ie PGnus is able to find the message number just by looking at the header. My guess is it does this via the Xref header. So, the obvious problem is that PGnus cannot interpret the Xref header here at Uni - I don't know why, it looks OK to me: Xref: towncrier.cc.monash.edu.au rec.aviation.ifr:52840 rec.aviation:34480 Hang on... Perhaps PGnus is confused with the "towncrier.cc.monash.edu.au" bit - my newsserver is setup as "newserver.cc.monash.edu.au": [504] [dec16:bmay] ~ >host newsserver.cc.monash.edu.au newsserver.cc.monash.edu.au has address 130.194.1.90 newsserver.cc.monash.edu.au mail is handled (pri=20) by mx.cc.monash.edu.au newsserver.cc.monash.edu.au mail is handled (pri=10) by towncrier.cc.monash.edu.au [505] [dec16:bmay] ~ >host towncrier.cc.monash.edu.au towncrier.cc.monash.edu.au has address 130.194.1.90 towncrier.cc.monash.edu.au mail is handled (pri=20) by mx.cc.monash.edu.au towncrier.cc.monash.edu.au mail is handled (pri=10) by towncrier.cc.monash.edu.au (note: they both have the same IP address). However, I tried changing gnus-select-method to use towncrier, but it didn't help. Is there anyway to debug why PGnus doesn't like the Xref header (assuming my assumptions are correct)? -- Brian May