* 0.17: nnml and can't see new articles...
@ 1997-12-05 5:51 jari.aalto
1997-12-10 14:04 ` Kai Grossjohann
0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: jari.aalto @ 1997-12-05 5:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I have started encountering very weird behavior...
- My message are files by procmail to ~/Mail/spool
- When I request new files for group, Gnus read the spool
file and I can see it storing the messages to nnml group
- The count of new messages is correctly updated to Group line
So far so god, but when I enter the Group, The summary buffer
doesn't contain the new articles, while they are in the directory
if I list then.
If I exit the group, the Group line now say 0 new messages,
while I did nonthing? The new messages aren't seen by Gnus any more.
Does this have anything to do (side effect?) with the command M-x
nnml-generate-nov-databases. I notice that the article numbers
don't continue any more, but are somehow wrapped to lowest values.
Does that indicate anything?
jari
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1 Re: [RePol] Attacks on anonymity YourStealthNess <spook@nym.alias.net> 24 Sep 1997 04:19:53 -0000 <19970924041953.9591.qmail@nym.alias.net> 2315 45 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi mail.repol:1
2 Re: [RePol] Attacks on anonymity "Brian B. Riley" <brianbr@together.net> Tue, 23 Sep 97 22:34:29 -0400 <199709240234.WAA16307@mx01.together.net> 1336 44 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi mail.repol:2
6 Re: [RePol] Attacks on anonymity Jay Stotzky <jls@pobox.com> Tue, 23 Sep 1997 20:35:35 +0200 <3.0.1.32.19970923203535.00690668@195.52.124.6> <19970923030612.10598.qmail@nym.alias.net> 2480 87 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:6
7 Re: [RePol] Attacks on anonymity Andy Dustman <andy@CCMSD.chem.uga.edu> Tue, 23 Sep 1997 15:11:15 -0400 (EDT) <Pine.LNX.3.94.970923145002.2089L-200000@neptune.chem.uga.edu> <3.0.1.32.19970923203535.00690668@195.52.124.6> 9689 199 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:7
8 Re: [RePol] Attacks on anonymity Jay Stotzky <jls@pobox.com> Tue, 23 Sep 1997 21:29:42 +0200 <3.0.1.32.19970923212942.0069504c@195.52.124.6> <3.0.1.32.19970923203535.00690668@195.52.124.6> 2516 79 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:8
9 Re: [RePol] Attacks on anonymity iang@cs.berkeley.edu (Ian Goldberg) 23 Sep 1997 23:48:58 GMT <609kha$tcq$1@abraham.cs.berkeley.edu> <199709222145.RAA09270@mx01.together.net> 2545 54 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:9
89 [RePol] Anonymity at any cost, from The Netly News "Robert A. Costner" <pooh@efga.org> Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:56:25 -0500 <3.0.3.32.19971124155625.038ae390@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> 1989 51 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:89
104 Re: [RePol] BCC IN REMAILERS TruthMonger <tm@dev.null> Fri, 28 Nov 1997 07:57:41 -0600 <347ECDD4.77F7@dev.null> <199711280951.CAA12273@euromail.com> 4695 102 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:104
105 [RePol] Denizen "Ralph Brown" <target29@hotmail.com> Fri, 28 Nov 1997 08:06:31 PST <199711281606.IAA10607@f111.hotmail.com> 1834 35 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:105
106 Re: [RePol] Denizen TruthMonger <tm@dev.null> Fri, 28 Nov 1997 10:57:44 -0600 <347EF808.7770@dev.null> <199711281606.IAA10607@f111.hotmail.com> 1118 28 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:106
107 [RePol] Backfire moderator <logger@california.com> Fri, 28 Nov 1997 10:45:46 <3.0.3.16.19971128104546.157fcfe2@global.california.com> <3.0.3.16.19971128001939.2de71402@global.california.com> 927 30 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:107
108 [RePol] Dumb question Denizen <logger@california.com> Fri, 28 Nov 1997 10:56:27 <3.0.3.16.19971128105627.2fdfb2f0@global.california.com> 482 12 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:108
109 [RePol] RALPHIE RONGIE Denizen <logger@california.com> Fri, 28 Nov 1997 11:08:59 <3.0.3.16.19971128110859.2fdf2748@global.california.com> 1626 42 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:109
110 [RePol] Wot is SPAM? Denizen <logger@california.com> Fri, 28 Nov 1997 11:12:02 <3.0.3.16.19971128111202.29df32d4@global.california.com> 668 15 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:110
111 [RePol] Bravo Truthmonger Denizen <logger@california.com> Fri, 28 Nov 1997 11:15:03 <3.0.3.16.19971128111503.29df84a2@global.california.com> 898 26 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:111
112 [RePol] Bravo Truthmonger!! Denizen <logger@california.com> Fri, 28 Nov 1997 10:52:39 <3.0.3.16.19971128105239.2fdf54fa@global.california.com> 456 11 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:112
113 Re: [RePol] Backfire Andy Dustman <andy@neptune.chem.uga.edu> Fri, 28 Nov 1997 17:25:49 -0500 (EST) <Pine.LNX.3.94.971128165207.21118b-100000@neptune.chem.uga.edu> <3.0.3.16.19971128104546.157fcfe2@global.california.com> 988 21 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:113
114 [RePol] Logger's many messages "Robert A. Costner" <pooh@efga.org> Fri, 28 Nov 1997 17:39:46 -0500 <3.0.3.32.19971128173946.031d9150@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> <199711280951.CAA12273@euromail.com> <3.0.3.16.19971128001939.2de71402@global.california.com> 3983 72 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:114
115 Re: [RePol] Logger's many messages "bh382@lafn.org" <bh382@lafn.org> Fri, 28 Nov 1997 19:22:35 -0500 <347F604B.7B9B@lafn.org> <199711280951.CAA12273@euromail.com> <3.0.3.16.19971128001939.2de71402@global.california.com> <3.0.3.32.19971128173946.031d9150@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> 765 19 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:115
116 Re: [RePol] Logger's many messages Denizen <logger@california.com> Fri, 28 Nov 1997 17:51:37 <3.0.3.16.19971128175137.259f6dd2@global.california.com> <3.0.3.16.19971128104546.157fcfe2@global.california.com> <199711280951.CAA12273@euromail.com> <3.0.3.16.19971128001939.2de71402@global.california.com> 5264 119 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:116
117 Re: [RePol] Logger's many messages "Robert A. Costner" <pooh@efga.org> Fri, 28 Nov 1997 23:28:57 -0500 <3.0.3.32.19971128232857.030f0260@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> <199711280951.CAA12273@euromail.com> <3.0.3.16.19971128001939.2de71402@global.california.com> <3.0.3.32.19971128173946.031d9150@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> 3718 67 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:117
118 Re: [RePol] Logger's many messages "bh382@lafn.org" <bh382@lafn.org> Sat, 29 Nov 1997 03:15:41 -0500 <347FCF2D.44DC@lafn.org> <199711280951.CAA12273@euromail.com> <3.0.3.16.19971128001939.2de71402@global.california.com> <3.0.3.32.19971128173946.031d9150@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> <3.0.3.32.19971128232857.030f0260@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> 1471 34 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:118
119 Re: [RePol] Logger's many messages "Robert A. Costner" <pooh@efga.org> Sat, 29 Nov 1997 08:37:52 -0500 <3.0.3.32.19971129083752.0303af34@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> <199711280951.CAA12273@euromail.com> <3.0.3.16.19971128001939.2de71402@global.california.com> <3.0.3.32.19971128173946.031d9150@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> <3.0.3.32.19971128232857.030f0260@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> 2681 52 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:119
120 [RePol] Re Logger's new stimulus for you to post Denizen <logger@california.com> Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:08:55 <3.0.3.16.19971129100855.2fefed84@global.california.com> <347F604B.7B9B@lafn.org> <199711280951.CAA12273@euromail.com> <3.0.3.16.19971128001939.2de71402@global.california.com> <3.0.3.32.19971128173946.031d9150@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> 1201 26 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:120
121 [RePol] NEWBIE QUESTION Denizen <logger@california.com> Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:12:59 <3.0.3.16.19971129101259.2feff5ce@global.california.com> 536 16 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:121
122 Re: [RePol] NEWBIE QUESTION <jari.aalto@poboxes.com> 01 Dec 1997 10:32:44 +0200 <tbra7xjwer.fsf@pegasus.tele.nokia.fi> <3.0.3.16.19971129101259.2feff5ce@global.california.com> 843 22 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:122
123 Re: [RePol] NEWBIE QUESTION <jari.aalto@poboxes.com> 01 Dec 1997 10:32:44 +0200 <tbra7xjwer.fsf@pegasus.tele.nokia.fi> <3.0.3.16.19971129101259.2feff5ce@global.california.com> 1050 26 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:123
124 Re: [RePol] NEWBIE QUESTION TruthMonger <tm@dev.null> Mon, 01 Dec 1997 04:20:31 -0600 <34828F6F.35F3@dev.null> <3.0.3.16.19971129101259.2feff5ce@global.california.com> <tbra7xjwer.fsf@pegasus.tele.nokia.fi> 1050 29 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:124
125 [RePol] Jari's Motives Denizen <logger@california.com> Mon, 01 Dec 1997 09:00:57 <3.0.3.16.19971201090057.3057e7d4@global.california.com> <Denizen's message of "Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:12:59"> <3.0.3.16.19971129101259.2feff5ce@global.california.com> 2095 54 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:125
126 Re: [RePol] NEWBIE QUESTION Denizen <logger@california.com> Mon, 01 Dec 1997 08:45:53 <3.0.3.16.19971201084553.3057645e@global.california.com> <3.0.3.16.19971129101259.2feff5ce@global.california.com> <tbra7xjwer.fsf@pegasus.tele.nokia.fi> 1407 40 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:126
127 Re: [RePol] NEWBIE QUESTION Johan Helsingius <julf@penet.fi> Mon, 01 Dec 1997 20:56:34 +0100 <3.0.1.32.19971201205634.033af890@office.eu.net> <34828F6F.35F3@dev.null> <3.0.3.16.19971129101259.2feff5ce@global.california.com> <tbra7xjwer.fsf@pegasus.tele.nokia.fi> 831 22 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:127
128 Re: [RePol] NEWBIE QUESTION Anonymous <anon@anon.efga.org> Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:18:35 -0500 <32168830a2c80bfbd41f8dab7d7b8f2d@anon.efga.org> 1126 24 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:128
129 Re: [RePol] Logger's vengeance Anonymous <anon@anon.efga.org> Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:18:41 -0500 <ca625388afb12110b6043a75e9214276@anon.efga.org> 4122 96 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:129
130 [RePol] Keep technical questions off this list, please. Rip <candy@nym.alias.net> 1 Dec 1997 22:23:49 -0000 <19971201222349.7224.qmail@nym.alias.net> 536 16 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:130
131 [RePol] JUlf Himself! Denizen <logger@california.com> Mon, 01 Dec 1997 14:31:26 <3.0.3.16.19971201143126.2c574128@global.california.com> <3.0.3.16.19971201084553.3057645e@global.california.com> <34828F6F.35F3@dev.null> <3.0.3.16.19971129101259.2feff5ce@global.california.com> <tbra7xjwer.fsf@pegasus.tele.nokia.fi> 3915 114 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:131
132 [RePol] Questions create questions Denizen <logger@california.com> Mon, 01 Dec 1997 14:38:50 <3.0.3.16.19971201143850.2c57f12e@global.california.com> <32168830a2c80bfbd41f8dab7d7b8f2d@anon.efga.org> 1455 39 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:132
133 Re: [RePol] Questions create questions Johannes Kroeger <hanne@squirrel.owl.de> Tue, 2 Dec 1997 00:27:41 +0100 <19971202002741.03829@squirrel.owl.de> <32168830a2c80bfbd41f8dab7d7b8f2d@anon.efga.org> <3.0.3.16.19971201143850.2c57f12e@global.california.com> 1449 44 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:133
134 [RePol] jari's motives Harry Tuttle <htuttle@nym.alias.net> 1 Dec 1997 22:54:58 -0000 <19971201225458.19073.qmail@nym.alias.net> 2750 66 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:134
135 Re: [RePol] Logger's vengeance Denizen <logger@california.com> Mon, 01 Dec 1997 14:52:29 <3.0.3.16.19971201145229.2f377202@global.california.com> <ca625388afb12110b6043a75e9214276@anon.efga.org> 3276 88 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:135
136 Re: [RePol] JUlf Himself! "Robert A. Costner" <pooh@efga.org> Mon, 01 Dec 1997 18:16:00 -0500 <3.0.3.32.19971201181600.03900444@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> <3.0.1.32.19971201205634.033af890@office.eu.net> <3.0.3.16.19971201084553.3057645e@global.california.com> <34828F6F.35F3@dev.null> <3.0.3.16.19971129101259.2feff5ce@global.california.com> <tbra7xjwer.fsf@pegasus.tele.nokia.fi> 1057 22 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:136
137 [RePol] Bill Stewart kills babies after he molests them. Honest! / Re: Pasting in From: TruthMonger <tm@dev.null> Tue, 02 Dec 1997 07:45:15 -0600 <348410EB.55FB@dev.null> <v03102802b0a801cade82@[206.170.115.5]> <3.0.3.32.19971201120355.006d2f34@popd.ix.netcom.com> 4551 92 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:137
142 Re: [RePol] Janet Reno kills babies David Honig <honig@otc.net> Tue, 02 Dec 1997 11:11:53 -0800 <3.0.5.32.19971202111153.007cda70@otc.net> <v03102802b0a801cade82@[206.170.115.5]> <3.0.3.32.19971201120355.006d2f34@popd.ix.netcom.com> <3.0.3.32.19971202094253.037e0654@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> 2377 51 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:142
143 [RePol] Oh God I am So Sorry! Denizen <logger@california.com> Tue, 02 Dec 1997 12:19:25 <3.0.3.16.19971202121925.21c738be@global.california.com> 726 17 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:143
144 [RePol] hashcash spam throttle Adam Back <aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk> Wed, 3 Dec 1997 00:44:49 GMT <199712030044.AAA01172@server.test.net> <3.0.3.32.19971202094253.037e0654@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> 770 17 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:144
146 [RePol] Detect Spam Denizen <logger@california.com> Wed, 03 Dec 1997 12:52:06 <3.0.3.16.19971203125206.1e778f08@global.california.com> 534 13 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:146
147 Re: [RePol] Re: Pasting in From: you@yourmachine.com stewarts@ix.netcom.com Wed, 03 Dec 1997 09:35:52 -0800 <3.0.3.32.19971203093552.00748ecc@popd.ix.netcom.com> <19971203142004.12956.qmail@nym.alias.net> 1489 28 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:147
148 [RePol] CNET article on the Net's finest [criminals] Anonymous <anon@anon.efga.org> Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:49:17 -0500 <2eb425f98280300c0c15531513a320d5@anon.efga.org> 2037 51 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:148
149 Re: [RePol] Detect Spam Anonymous <anon@anon.efga.org> Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:19:06 -0500 <c2a415d6d2ab75f30d8a09adc05b8ad0@anon.efga.org> 921 20 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:149
150 [RePol] Bravo Denizen <logger@california.com> Wed, 03 Dec 1997 14:42:42 <3.0.3.16.19971203144242.26ffde6e@global.california.com> 420 14 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:150
151 [RePol] Reply to Bill S. Denizen <logger@california.com> Wed, 03 Dec 1997 14:40:19 <3.0.3.16.19971203144019.26ff5eac@global.california.com> <19971203142004.12956.qmail@nym.alias.net> 1475 32 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:151
152 Re: [RePol] Detect Spam John Perry <perry@alpha.jpunix.com> Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:54:03 -0600 <19971203165403.04604@alpha.jpunix.com> <c2a415d6d2ab75f30d8a09adc05b8ad0@anon.efga.org> 1496 31 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:152
153 Re: [RePol] Denizen Anonymous <anon@anon.efga.org> Thu, 4 Dec 1997 09:49:37 -0500 <225c8ebafe5f0a6f706013832385db52@anon.efga.org> 2416 50 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:153
3 [RePol] WHO SAID LIST IS FOR PROS ONLY? Denizen <logger@california.com> Thu, 04 Dec 1997 10:25:40 <3.0.3.16.19971204102540.2cff746c@global.california.com> <c2a415d6d2ab75f30d8a09adc05b8ad0@anon.efga.org> 2023 44 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:3
4 [RePol] HUGE CAJONES/BURNMORE Denizen <logger@california.com> Thu, 04 Dec 1997 10:36:29 <3.0.3.16.19971204103629.2fe7295e@global.california.com> 412 11 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:4
5 [RePol] SPAM SERVERS Denizen <logger@california.com> Thu, 04 Dec 1997 10:28:02 <3.0.3.16.19971204102802.2fe70cdc@global.california.com> 505 11 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:5
10 Re: [RePol] SPAM SERVERS lutz@taranis.iks-jena.de (Lutz Donnerhacke) 4 Dec 1997 19:11:26 GMT <slrn68e02m.1i7.lutz@taranis.iks-jena.de> <3.0.3.16.19971204102802.2fe70cdc@global.california.com> 799 18 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:10
11 (none) mctaylor@mta.ca Thu, 04 Dec 1997 16:55:40 AST <199712042055.QAA08349@mailserv.mta.ca> 2204 56 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:11
12 Re: [RePol] WHO SAID LIST IS FOR PROS ONLY? Anonymous Sender <nobody@privacynb.ml.org> Thu, 4 Dec 1997 17:24:21 -0400 <e6458435d7638ee7efd405da739d1557@privacynb.ml.org> 2204 56 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:12
13 Re: [RePol] WHO SAID LIST IS FOR PROS ONLY? Anonymous Sender <nobody@privacynb.ml.org> Thu, 4 Dec 1997 17:23:51 -0400 <596b7d921b29211f63616dc55fbeb61d@privacynb.ml.org> 2204 56 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:13
14 Re: [RePol] Bill Stewart kills babies after he molests them. Honest! / Re: Pasting in From: Charlie Comsec <comsec@nym.alias.net> 4 Dec 1997 22:20:06 -0000 <19971204222006.7793.qmail@nym.alias.net> 5506 106 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:14
15 [RePol] Re: dustman Denizen <logger@california.com> Thu, 04 Dec 1997 14:13:38 <3.0.3.16.19971204141338.237fc784@global.california.com> <199712042055.QAA08349@mailserv.mta.ca> 3928 119 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:15
16 Re: [RePol] Re: dustman Privacy Admin <woz@privacynb.ml.org> Thu, 4 Dec 1997 18:56:08 -0400 (AST) <Pine.LNX.3.95.971204184719.27871A-100000@privacynb.ml.org> <3.0.3.16.19971204141338.237fc784@global.california.com> 1462 41 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:16
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18 [RePol] Re: Michael C Taylor <mctaylor@mta.ca> Fri, 05 Dec 1997 00:21:17 -0400 <3.0.4.32.19971205002117.031813cc@mta.ca> <199712042055.QAA08349@mailserv.mta.ca> 3083 86 Xref: pegasus.tele.nokia.fi list.repol:18
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* Re: 0.17: nnml and can't see new articles...
1997-12-05 5:51 0.17: nnml and can't see new articles jari.aalto
@ 1997-12-10 14:04 ` Kai Grossjohann
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From: Kai Grossjohann @ 1997-12-10 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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>>>>> On 05 Dec 1997, Jari Aalto said:
Jari> Does this have anything to do (side effect?) with the
Jari> command M-x nnml-generate-nov-databases. I notice that the
Jari> article numbers don't continue any more, but are somehow
Jari> wrapped to lowest values. Does that indicate anything?
Well, if Gnus starts writing articles with low numbers, that's a clear
indication that it has gotten confused. Have you been real careful
with nnml-generate-nov-databases? Such as setting nnml-get-new-mail
to nil before you invoked a new Gnus for this command?
Try this:
- Quit Gnus, quit Emacs
- Remove all .overview files
- Put (setq nnml-get-new-mail nil) in .gnus or .emacs
- Start Emacs
- Start Gnus
- Do nnml-generate-nov-databases
- Exit Gnus, exit Emacs
- Remove the (setq nnml-get-new-mail nil)
In particular: do nothing else between starting Gnus and running
nnml-generate-nov-databases!
Do a sanity check on the .overview files. Do they contain the right
message numbers?
--
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