From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/14898 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: (+list.ding) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus PGP Questions Date: 03 Apr 1998 11:44:38 +0300 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pgp-sign-Multipart_Fri_Apr__3_11:44:19_1998-1"; micalg=pgp-md5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035154015 18871 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:46:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:46:55 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01934 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 00:42:26 -0800 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (root@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01194 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:46:36 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAH12800; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:46:46 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 03 Apr 1998 02:46:22 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA12787 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 02:46:13 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 22912 invoked by uid 504); 3 Apr 1998 08:45:59 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 22909 invoked from network); 3 Apr 1998 08:45:58 -0000 Original-Received: from axl01it.ntc.nokia.com (131.228.118.232) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 3 Apr 1998 08:45:56 -0000 Original-Received: from zeus.tele.nokia.fi (zeus.tele.nokia.fi [131.228.134.50]) by axl01it.ntc.nokia.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA01799 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:44:40 +0300 (EET DST) Original-Received: from tre.tele.nokia.fi (styx.ntc.nokia.com [131.228.169.57]) by zeus.tele.nokia.fi (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA16685 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:49:11 +0300 Original-Received: by tre.tele.nokia.fi (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA200663078; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:44:38 +0300 Original-To: Ding mailing list X-Info: Quassia Gnus v0.37 In-Reply-To: Stainless Steel Rat's message of "02 Apr 1998 14:32:29 -0500" Original-Lines: 93 X-Mailer: Quassia Gnus v0.37/Emacs 19.34 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:14898 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:14898 --pgp-sign-Multipart_Fri_Apr__3_11:44:19_1998-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII | 98-04-02 Stainless Steel Rat list.ding | | >>>>> "CS" == Christoph Seibert writes: | CS> - header) with Gnus. | | Hoo-boy. | | Both PGP/MIME and X-PGP have similar flaws: if the message body is altered | by the inclusion or removal of whitespace, a transformation that many | transfer agents will perform, it is impossible to properly reconstruct the | message for validation or decryption. Erm. I haven't encountered such MTA yet. The PGP/MIME has worked fine. It's also standard. | CS> When no matching key is found, it seems I can only try to "fetch" it. I | CS> haven't found a way yet to enter an alternative key-ID by hand (as in | CS> mc-encrypt). | | The PGP/MIME tools are woefully inadequate for any serious PGP user. I have used PGP/MIME for 2 years now without problems in Emacs/TM. | suggestion is to use mailcrypt instead. It works, it works as reliably as | PGP itself. Any good MUA that groks PGP will (or at least can) hide PGP's | delimiter lines and signature blocks. | [Christoper continues] | |1) When I do mime-editor/set-encrypt and try to send the message, the |complete "To:" address is used to find the key... | So when someone has a new mail address or |there's a slight change in the user ID, I can't send him a |PGP-encrypted message without him adding the new ID to his key and me |adding this key to my public keyring. This is very annoying. :-( TinyPgp can handle this. you just define REGEXP to match emails and specify keyHexId or email address where to translate the See section 12.7 from the manual. ftp://cs.uta.fi/pub/ssjaaa/ema-tipgp.html |2) How can I send messages "Sign & Encrypt"? mime-editor/set-encrypt TinyPgp has this "one pass, Sign & Encrypt" command: C-c / t |signed and encrypted - only not following PGP-Elkins, but PGP-Kazu. But for MIME you don't have to call it yourself. |How can I (without calling "only" mc-decrypt) | |1) reply to PGP-encrypted messages so that the decrypted message gets |quoted? Good suggestion. I haven't thought this yet. Will be corrected in next release. |2) optionally (or always) replace the en- by the decrypted message on |disk as in mc-decrypt? Replacing MIM/PGP message is a bit hairy, because TM takes the control. But I check if I have add this feature to TinyPgp too. |3) decrypt and display a PGP-encrypted message by pressing a key in |the Summary buffer or automagically by using an appropriate hook |without having to use the mouse? That is, how can I simulate mouse-2 |on the appropriate MIME-header? TinyPgp has Summary-minor mode, but I don't it doesn't know MIMe/PGP yet, only regular PGP. I'll add this feature to todo. jari --pgp-sign-Multipart_Fri_Apr__3_11:44:19_1998-1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Comment: Processed by Emacs TinyPgp.el 2.31 iQBVAwUBNSShZsC67dVHFB01AQEf3wH9Hbm8qlHsS/y0ojTfsP/jHEipE2dtZ3+/ f+QW+hD5actnDUxpxySN8EKXhF4FACB/0wweB7Sm0omsL7NRzErVOg== =JIIf -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --pgp-sign-Multipart_Fri_Apr__3_11:44:19_1998-1--