From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/11231 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Griffith Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Unnecessary nntp reading? Date: 31 May 1997 12:14:05 +0200 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035150975 29091 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:56:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: John Griffith Return-Path: Original-Received: from sandy.calag.com (root@sandy [206.190.83.128]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA32563 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 04:40:12 -0700 Original-Received: from xemacs.org (xemacs.cs.uiuc.edu [128.174.252.16]) by sandy.calag.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15672 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 04:40:09 -0700 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by xemacs.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA14270 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 06:39:29 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 12:14:20 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 12918 invoked by uid 504); 31 May 1997 10:14:18 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 12915 invoked from network); 31 May 1997 10:14:17 -0000 Original-Received: from filippo.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de (134.2.129.45) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 31 May 1997 10:14:17 -0000 Original-Received: (from griffith@localhost) by filippo.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA27855; Sat, 31 May 1997 12:14:06 +0200 (MET DST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: never In-Reply-To: gnus-bug@ifi.uio.no's message of 05 Dec 1996 16:59:11 +0100 Original-Lines: 38 Original-Xref: altair.xemacs.org dgnus-list:1621 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:11231 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:11231 I have all my mail (nnml) groups on levels 1 and 2 and all nntp groups on 3 and 4. I'm trying to figure out what several variables do and how they interact with each other. Namely the variables: - gnus-activate-level - gnus-read-active-file - gnus-check-new-newsgroups A) If I set gnus-activate-level to 1 and gnus-check-new-newsgroups to nil I would suspect that the nntp server should not be read at all, but it is - even if gnus-read-active-file is nil as well. However, as I would expect, the nntp groups are not updated. What is Gnus looking for? It's not looking for newgroups and it's not looking for active information on my nntp groups. B) If I set gnus-activate-level to 1 and gnus-check-new-newsgroups to nil and gnus-read-active-file to `some' then I would suspect that (regardless of A above) the nntp groups' active information would not be read - but they are. The documentation for gnus-read-active-file says "If this variable is `some', Gnus will try to only read the relevant parts of the active file from the server." I would think that the definition of a "relevant part" should take into consideration that fact that if gnus-activate-level is lower than all nntp groups (and no prefix argument was given) then there are _no_ relevant parts. Furthermore, what I would like (and expect) is that setting gnus-activate-level to 3 and gnus-read-active-file to `some' would allow me to put some "subscribed" nntp groups on level 4 but not have their active information updated (and therefor not spend lots of time) unless I use an explicit prefix argument to "M-x gnus" or "g" from the group buffer, etc. If these things are not bugs, then I think the documentation of these variables should explain and motivate this behavior.