From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/45762 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ken Raeburn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: naive charset question Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:31:10 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1027290738 11298 127.0.0.1 (21 Jul 2002 22:32:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17WPFQ-0002w7-00 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2002 00:32:17 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17WPEe-0005Me-00; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:31:28 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:31:52 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA17949 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:31:41 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 28092 invoked by alias); 21 Jul 2002 22:31:12 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 28087 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2002 22:31:11 -0000 Original-Received: from 208-59-178-90.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO raeburn.org) (208.59.178.90) by gnus.org with SMTP; 21 Jul 2002 22:31:11 -0000 Original-Received: from kal-el.raeburn.org ([2002:d03b:b25a:1:201:2ff:fe23:e26d]) by raeburn.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g6LMVAf17616; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:31:10 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from raeburn by kal-el.raeburn.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17WPEM-0001Xc-00; Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:31:10 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Ken Raeburn's message of "Sun, 21 Jul 2002 17:41:15 -0400") Original-Lines: 32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45762 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45762 I wrote: > That come through fine for me, although if I try to quote the > non-ASCII characters in a reply, again I get asked for a charset and > the default behavior is to send a one-part us-ascii message. Does > quoting in a reply work for you, or sending the HELLO text, as opposed > to actually entering the characters as input? I found it! An old part of my .emacs code invoked (standard-display-european 1) which is described as Semi-obsolete way to toggle display of ISO 8859 European characters... but in fact appears to be actively detrimental in some cases. The docs say that when it's called non-interactively (as in my case), it selects unibyte mode for all buffers, and selects the Latin-1 language environment. But MML didn't even try to send out the message as Latin-1, it just prompted and defaulted to ASCII. Even so, if I got BIG5 characters into my message buffer and displaying properly, MML ought to be able to figure out what they are. Removing that call does seem to fix my problem. I can even send much of the HELLO message, although it complains about devanagari being an invalid coding system, and offhand I don't know the right way to find out what text it's complaining about. (I worked it out by M-x apropos, noting that it reported "indian-glyph-code-offset" in the plist, and deleting any text from that general part of the world, and a few others. But that shouldn't be how I have to work it out.) Ken