From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/61303 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sam Steingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: how to save in "cooked" format? Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:57:32 -0500 Organization: disorganization Message-ID: References: Reply-To: sds@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1131055426 31332 80.91.229.2 (3 Nov 2005 22:03:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 22:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+m9835=ding+2daccount=gmane.org@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Nov 03 23:03:41 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EXnAA-00012d-Gz for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:02:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1EXnA9-0004qj-03 for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:02:25 -0600 Original-Received: from nas02.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.40]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1EXn9r-0004qb-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:02:07 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas02.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EXn9l-0005KF-A9 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:02:07 -0600 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1EXn9k-0004fB-00 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:02:00 +0100 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EXn7s-0000MU-KL for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:00:04 +0100 Original-Received: from fw-ext.alphatech.com ([198.112.236.6]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:00:04 +0100 Original-Received: from sds by fw-ext.alphatech.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:00:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 54 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: fw-ext.alphatech.com Mail-Copies-To: never X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:I3vxmbN6ylzM6zejJJZq3VuCthU= X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:61303 Archived-At: > * Reiner Steib [2005-11-03 22:01:47 +0100]: > > On Thu, Nov 03 2005, Sam Steingold wrote: > >> this the MS approach: to read a MS Word document, you must use MS Word. >> to read a file saved by Gnus, you must use Gnus. >> this is just plain wrong. > [...] >> >> C-o RET C-x C-f RET >> should show the same characters displayed in the "*Article*" buffer, >> not some junk from the " *Original Article*" buffer (maybe with more >> headers, maybe without fontifications, but it should be _human_ >> _readable_, not just _gnus_ _readable_). > > Sam, please stop this FUD. this is not FUD. First I asked "how do I save articles in plain text". I was told: "you don't - save as mail and use gnus" I replied: this is wrong, there should be a way to save in text format. > The command `C-o' is documented[1] to save the article in Unix mail > format which is exactly what it does. Unix mail format (supplemented > with the relevant MIME extensions) isn't a Gnus-only format (I'm quite > sure you a aware of this). If the article contains non-ASCII it _has_ > to be encoded somehow. fine, so how do I save without this ASCII encoding?! > `O f', `O F' or `o' with gnus-default-article-saver set to > gnus-summary-write-to-file or gnus-summary-save-in-file more or less > do what you want. thanks. this is nice. alas, there is just two small problems: 1. the Subject line remains in the "=?windows-1251?Q?=..." format 2. the text is not saved in the correct encoding. the file to which I append starts with -*- coding: utf-8-unix -*- it is not saved correctly: œô¨¿œô¨àœô¨Øœô¨Òœô¨Õœô¨â Sam! instead of Привет Sam! -- Sam Steingold (http://www.podval.org/~sds) running w2k Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out of it alive!