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From: Oliver Scholz <alkibiades@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: Gnus: UTF-8 and compatibility with other MUAs
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 18:40:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <u1xvkkzke.fsf@ID-87814.user.dfncis.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3r83kwjoi.fsf@seneca.benny.turtle-trading.net>

Benjamin Riefenstahl <Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de> writes:
[...]
> Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
>> But it doesn't solve the problem. 'cmp' still says the files are
>> different.  UTF-8 had a similar problem (overlong encodings) but
>> that has been fixed, UTF-16 and UTF-32 can't be.
>
> Actually UTF-8 still has that problem with composed vs. decomposed
> characters.  There is no perfect system AFAIK.

Just to be sure that I understand you correctly: Do you refer to the
fact here that a character like, say, U+00E9 (LATIN SMALL LETTER E
WITH ACUTE) is equivalent to U+0065 followed by U+0301 (LATIN SMALL
LETTER E followed by COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT)?

>> If normal computers was 16 bit, I could understand the trade-off,
>
> Depends of what you call "normal computers."  MS Windows and Apple's
> Mac OS X both use UTF-16 for APIs and internal implmentation.
[...]

I am not sure, but I think that the characters that need to be
accessed via surrogate pairs are meant to be rare, since they are
outside of the BMP. So AFAIK UTF-16 is meant as a space-efficient
format for East Asian text. But as I said: this is outside the scope
of things with which I have normally to deal with.

    Oliver
-- 
30 Thermidor an 211 de la Révolution
Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité!




  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-17 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-14 15:48 Xavier Maillard
2003-08-14 22:39 ` Frank Schmitt
2003-08-15 18:22   ` Xavier Maillard
2003-08-14 23:01 ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-15 13:50   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-15 16:48     ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-15 18:10       ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16  0:23         ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-16  9:48           ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16 13:01             ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-16 15:36               ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16 17:14                 ` Reiner Steib
2003-08-16 19:29                   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-19 14:54                   ` Miles Bader
2003-08-20 15:24                     ` Reiner Steib
2003-08-21  0:20                       ` Miles Bader
2003-08-16 17:23                 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-08-16 19:18                   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16 22:24                     ` Simon Josefsson
2003-08-17 12:30                       ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-08-17 16:40                         ` Oliver Scholz [this message]
2003-08-18  2:20                           ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-08-18 15:58                           ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-08-18  2:16                       ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-08-18  2:09                   ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-08-28 13:38                     ` Jens Müller
2003-08-28 13:35                   ` Jens Müller
2003-08-17  0:57                 ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-17 17:24                   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-17 18:21                     ` Matthias Andree
2003-08-15 18:24   ` Xavier Maillard
2003-08-16  0:35     ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-14 23:05 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-08-15 17:00   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16  7:43     ` Ivan Boldyrev
2003-08-17 17:27       ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-18  6:01     ` Steinar Bang

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