From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/24370 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thomas Lofgren Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Removed forward slash? Date: 19 Jul 1999 08:54:56 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87wvvzgr93.fsf@pc-hrvoje.srce.hr> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035161948 8348 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:59:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14766 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 02:56:04 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAB04831; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 01:55:48 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 01:56:21 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA15696 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 01:56:10 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from brahma.sics.se (brahma.sics.se [193.10.66.43]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14700 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 02:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from muneca.sics.se (muneca.sics.se [193.10.66.59]) by brahma.sics.se (8.8.8/SICS) via ESMTP id IAA06224 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:54:58 +0200 (MET DST) env-from (lofgren@sics.se) Original-Received: (from lofgren@localhost) by muneca.sics.se (8.7.1/8.7.1) id IAA04911; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:54:57 +0200 (METDST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Hrvoje Niksic's message of "17 Jul 1999 18:44:56 +0200" Original-Lines: 31 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070084 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.84) Emacs/20.3 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:24370 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:24370 >>>>> "HN" == Hrvoje Niksic writes: HN> Fran-Aç-Bois Pinard writes: >> Slashes are routinely used to delimit a word meant to be >> rendered in italic font, and Gnus removes the slashes while >> this rendering occurs. HN> I suspect that it might be the case that Harry's Emacs does HN> not render italics correctly, for whatever reason. In that HN> case, italicizing will really look like "removing slashes", HN> which is quite disconcerting. I quite often find myself working on a tty, and unable to see italics and bold any different from regular text. The default Gnus behavior is very impractical for this purpose. I know it can be toggled off, but it strikes me as strange that the default behavior is to interpret the content as if it was something other than plain text. Sure, it's nice to have the bold and italics at times, but I don't think we have to lower ourselves to the general software industry where appearance is more important than functionality. Let the users toggle it on if they want it. At the very least, there should be a check if we're on a tty, and toggled off if that is the case. That's really not enough, though, as some people (for whatever reason) use fonts that can't be italicized even under X. Tom -- T. Lofgren - Wherever I lay my .emacs, that's my ${HOME} Software, not beer