From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/56648 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Greiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus Agent saves only some group lists Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 23:38:10 -0600 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1078897158 19185 80.91.224.253 (10 Mar 2004 05:39:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 05:39:18 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M5187@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Mar 10 06:39:11 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B0wQw-0004Xj-00 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 06:39:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1B0wQJ-0006lW-00; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 23:38:31 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1B0wQA-0006lO-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 23:38:23 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (quimby.gnus.org [80.91.224.244]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9C23A0053 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2004 23:38:22 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B0wQ8-00056F-00 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 06:38:20 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 49 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-216-12-206-250.ev1.net Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1078897098 19429 216.12.206.250 (10 Mar 2004 05:38:18 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 05:38:18 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ELr8iehaVTx2Wo06iFkJfJ0bd6Y= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56648 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56648 Michael Schierl writes: > Kevin Greiner writes: > >> Michael Schierl writes: >>> What do i have to do to save group lists from these servers offline as >>> well? >> >> I'll have to look into it. The active file is stored for offline use. > > These ones? > > Standard@laptop /cygdrive/c/Eigenes/gnus/News/agent$ find . -name active -ls > 809090 ./nntp/news.individual.de/agent.lib/active > 185410 ./nntp/news.gmane.org/agent.lib/active > 41 ./nntp/news.arcor.de/agent.lib/active > 23 ./nntp/news.gnus.org/agent.lib/active > > [truncated some columns] > > Hmm, the last two files look a bit small for me. > > $ cat ./nntp/news.arcor.de/agent.lib/active > arcor.digest 136 56 y > arcor.de 687 493 y > > $ cat ./nntp/news.gnus.org/agent.lib/active > gnus.ietf-drafts 0 0 y > > [these are exactly my subscribed groups atm] > > > So the problem is most likely not that the stored data is not used, > but that the data is not stored properly. Saving the active file seems like such a basic function that I didn't see how it could have an undetected bug. What I found was that the entire active file is saved for your native and secondary servers. The active file is not saved for foreign servers. What the agent instead does is write individual lines to a pseudo-active file as you subscribe to groups. I suspect that this is one of the intentional differences between the two classes of servers. Try adding some of your nttp servers to the list of secondary servers to see if I am right. Kevin