From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67668
Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel
Subject: Re: gnus should accept UTF8 even if UTF-8 is standard
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:33:14 +0200
Message-ID: <u63nlfdv9.fsf@gnu.org>
References: <jwvabd5s1qc.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <E1KqTpJ-0001iY-1J@fencepost.gnu.org> <jwvvdvsk0od.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <E1KqvTk-0006Yw-8l@fencepost.gnu.org> <jwvd4hxpw32.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <E1KrjLV-0001mU-Mm@fencepost.gnu.org> <jwvwsg4vtrn.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <E1KryB0-0002AM-2x@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wsg2tvcn.fsf@xemacs.org> <buoljwicyhg.fsf@dhapc248.dev.necel.com> <20081021062510.GB22593@tomas> <buo4p36cvtm.fsf@dhapc248.dev.necel.com> <uprlugy8g.fsf@gnu.org> <87prlutizh.fsf@xemacs.org> <uhc76gscp.fsf@gnu.org> <87k5c2tan9.fsf@xemacs.org> <uabcyglzw.fsf@gnu.org> <87fxmptl1y.fsf@xemacs.org>
Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org
X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1224650058 3961 80.91.229.12 (22 Oct 2008 04:34:18 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:34:18 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: rms@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, tomas@tuxteam.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, miles@gnu.org
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Original-X-From: ding-owner+M16119@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Oct 22 06:35:18 2008
connect(): Connection refused
Return-path: <ding-owner+M16119@lists.math.uh.edu>
Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org
Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18])
	by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50)
	id 1KsVRF-0007TD-Gj
	for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:35:17 +0200
Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu)
	by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63)
	(envelope-from <ding-owner+M16119@lists.math.uh.edu>)
	id 1KsVQ4-0006vk-0g; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:34:04 -0500
Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32])
	by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256)
	(Exim 4.63)
	(envelope-from <eliz@gnu.org>)
	id 1KsVQ2-0006vO-NU
	for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:34:02 -0500
Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51])
	by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69)
	(envelope-from <eliz@gnu.org>)
	id 1KsVPz-0008Jg-TQ
	for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:34:02 -0500
Original-Received: from mtaout5.012.net.il ([84.95.2.13])
	by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian))
	id 1KsVQ5-0005Gg-00
	for <ding@gnus.org>; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:34:05 +0200
Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.98.197]) by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0K94002AXI1P20A2@i_mtaout5.012.net.il> for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:34:39 +0200 (IST)
In-reply-to: <87fxmptl1y.fsf@xemacs.org>
X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il
X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--)
List-ID: <ding.gnus.org>
Precedence: bulk
Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67668 gmane.emacs.devel:104817
Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67668>

> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
> Cc: rms@gnu.org,
>     ding@gnus.org,
>     emacs-devel@gnu.org,
>     tomas@tuxteam.de,
>     monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
>     miles@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:34:17 +0900
> 
> Eli Zaretskii writes:
> 
>  > What I meant is that, instead of returning a _string_, which is the
>  > name of a coding system, it is better to return a _symbol_ of that
>  > coding system.
> 
> Of course.  My point is that the symbol is the name, and therefore
> "canonicalize-coding-system-name" is a reasonable name for this
> function.

"-name" is generally a string, like in "symbol-name".